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I see this section is up and running. I'll just drop this here to help everyone find the new section.

Looks like this is for those of us on Unlimited plans to get help, ask question and, talk about our experience with unlimited plans.

Hi all you Unlimited subscribers, like me, out there. :)

Thank you Exede Alex.
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Posted 1 year ago

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Jim16

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I'm glad they did this.  It would be nice to see what the video speed of the unlimited plans truly are.
If you "unlimited" plan people will take the time to test it.....https://fast.com
With the video data extender turned on (480p), I get about 1 - 1.5mbs video speed.
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With a video streaming I also see 1 to 1.5Mbps on the Silver Unlimited (480) plan so, it appears as though the Video Data Extender does the same thing the permanent optimization on Unlimited plans does. Unlimited just doesn't have the option to turn it off but, we also don't get hard throttled ever so, it's a good trade off in my opinion.
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Not if you like to watch HD video :). Granted, certain areas have unlimited plans where that can be done, but the Silver or Bronze plan won't let you do that.
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Bradley

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Sunday morning




Silver unlimited
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Bradley

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Both tests were done on a wireless device using Exede’s router. Granted it isn’t always this good, but I’m satisfied.
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I thought today was Saturday.  
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Bradley

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Ok. You got me. Three day weekend messed me up. So why am I awake?!?!
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Jim16

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Silver(480p) seems to be throttled to 1-1.5 mbs.  Can anyone on the Gold plan(720p) run a test for us?  
https://fast.com/
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Does anyone know if that throttled video speed would be shared between two people watching Netflix at the same time? How would speeds be effected if someone were browsing while someone was watching Netflix?
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idk how much I trust fast.com cause http://prntscr.com/h9m045 http://testmy.net/puXvQB9rV.png as you can see the speed differences between it and testmy.net are quite big and my internet acts far closer to the speed testmy.net is saying it is than fast.com.  
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Bev, Champion

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Fast is registering the VIDEO speed, and that's about right for Silver Unlimited. TestMy is browsing speed, which is also in the normal range for a rainy Sunday afternoon here.
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Marika

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ok.
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Stephen Rice, Champion

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Fast.com tests your speed for streaming video.  Testmy.net tests your download speed for everything else.  If you are on an optimized video plan, your video is going to stream at a much lower rate than regular downloads or web surfing.

I'm not on one of the new unlimited plans.  I chose to keep my Liberty 12 plan and I always get the same speed whether I use Fast.com or Testmy.net to determine my speed.  People on unlimited plans optimized for video will always see a slower speed on Fast.com.
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Good info! Thanks!
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Old Labs (VS1-329-L12FZ)

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Delving into the fast.com page source and looking at network activity, yields some interesting observations (none of this is top secret and readily available).

For Netflix, it appears ViaSat is a Netflix Open Connect partner. When running the fast.com test, the test files (they don't appear to be videos just random data) used are being pulled from ipv4-c001-slc001-viasat-isp.1.oca.nflxvideo.net and ipv4-c002-slc001-viasat-isp.1.oca.nflxvideo.net. While the domains are registered to Netflix, in my case at least, there are two Netflix open connect appliances (OCAs) hosted at the ViaSat SLC core node) presumably serving up Netflix content for those of us assigned to the SLC core node. Others will likely find the test files coming from OCAs at their assigned core node.

Building fast.com at the Netflix Technology Blog provides some further insight into what's going on with this test.

Needless to say this allows ViaSat better control over your Netflix experience and yes everyone appears to be impacted in one way or another regardless of whether on an unlimited plan, video data extender option or even those who may think they're immune from these changes (e.g. NRTC subscribers but speeds aren't impacted to the same extent - I rarely see anything above 7-8 Mbps on fast.com now even during light usage periods not that I stream video).

So yes, fast.com effectively tests only your Netflix experience through ViaSat's infrastructure, and shouldn't be used as an overall measure of speed. Those having Netflix accounts and a little technical know-how can easily determine where their content is being pulled from.

All of the above offered as background info in the event your Netflix experience goes bad so you know how to make possible adjustments... and hence the discrepancy between fast.com and other speed test sites.   

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O.K.  Lets try this again.  Can some people that are on the Gold plan provide some information on what speeds you are getting when streaming?  Use    https://fast.com/       this will test your streaming speed only.  Silver looks to be 1-1.5 mbs.  Thanks!
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Bradley

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I’m not sure why no one with gold will post. I’m kind of curious now myself. Come on people. There are those of us that were never offered gold.
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Are Gold Plans rare as hens teeth?  It's offered in my area.  Deku?  Can you run this test for us.

https://fast.com/
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Beam 314, central NY, the gold plan was only offered for three days. I chose to stay on the 12 Mbps Freedom plan, so I can't help you, but I don't think there are many people on the Gold plans, and probably only a few of them ever come to the forum.
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I also have the Freedom plan and won't change to the Gold plan until things settle down and V2 is up and running.  When you can still stream at 720p after you go over your 150gig soft cap is when I will make the change to Gold.
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Liberty 12
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Jim16

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You are on Liberty 12 so your streaming isn't throttled like the unlimited plans.

https://fast.com
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My mistake. I forgot to turn on Wi-Fi before doing the speed test. During the day I see speeds up to 10 mbps but we are on primetime right now.


Looks like its a bit slower than normal for primetime but doesnt really matter. Its good enough for browsing and I watch all my video from my Playon/Plex server anyway.


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