Liberty Pass or Free Zone?

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Has anyone really pushed the liberty plan to its limit and done mega downloads with that plan? I'm asking because I'm starting a lets play gaming YouTube channel and as such will be downloading many games form steam. Now that being said a lot of them are like 30GB for example: fallout 4, anno 2205, undertale. Guess the questions is do I stick with the LNFZ or will the liberty plan work ?
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From what I get from the Data Policy for the Liberty Plan, the  more data you use, the slower you will be getting. It will depend on the traffic on your beam at the time, but my guess is that if you are looking at those large downloads, you should stay with a plan that has the LNFZ. Once you switch to the Liberty plan, there is no going back to a plan with a free zone. Liberty just became available in my area yesterday, and I have switched to it, but I have lived within my 10 GB for 3 1/2 years and have never gone over, and have never used the LNFZ, so it wasn't that hard to jump to Liberty so I can feel free to watch a movie or two now and then.
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Yea I know about the more you use the more they restrict you part. That's why I was wondering if anyone has pushed it to the limit to see just how far it goes before major speed reductions.
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I'm not sure it helps too much but I've been on the Liberty 12 plan for a few months now and I've been using about 30 GB per month total while running out of priority data about 2 - 3 weeks in.

I really believe much of what you see is dependent on the traffic your beam is seeing. I've noticed really large swings in speed from full speed to barely usable.

At least on my beam, the first 2 - 5 GB or so, I don't notice a difference at all. Then for the next 5 - 10 GB you can tell things slow down a little and the download speeds are capped. Then for the next 10 GB things slow down further, especially during peak periods (think a little faster than dial-up as far as page loads during the worst of peak times).

However, if you are using the net during off peak times, things work great. Also, I really notice the variability of when my beam is saturated. Some nights I don't notice any slow down while other nights everything runs at a crawl and it doesn't seem to make too much difference it being a weekend or a week day.

Anyway, hope that helps.

Joshua
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I'm thinking that you can probably get away with more during the daytime hours when it is off peak so to speak.  We are gradually getting more relaxed about streaming some things but we still set down the resolutions to keep our data reasonable.  We did  have a couple issues while streaming a basketball game a couple days ago but we also went over our priority data during the stream so it may have been a function of the modem resetting more than us actually using too much on the pass.  My husband watched a concert a couple days ago and I have been streaming a program I have been watching on Netflix 2 or 3 episodes a day some times but some of that is during the daytime hours.  I think most of us are curious as to what the actually threshold is for further restrictions.

Steve, I think you are really going to like Liberty.  Yes it is nice to be able to stream things once in awhile, it did take us awhile to relax and do it though after being so used to a hard data cap. I've been on the pass a couple days already this month and it's true, I can still stream Netflix even during prime time last night I was watching a program.  Enjoy.  :)
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I have been pleased so far with the Liberty plan. I was on the Classic 10 GB plan, but never used the LNFZ, so switching to Liberty was a no brainer to me. In my area of western New York, the only plans offered are the Liberty 10, 18 and 30. I went with the 10 GB plan, which is $10.00 more a month than the Classic 10 was, but I feel that with the Liberty Pass I don't have to watch my usage now, and am sure that in time I will feel better about watching some Netflix movies and shows. It will also make it easier during the holidays when my grown kids visit. They all live in the land of wired cable and don't know what it is like to have data caps.

I do not think that the Liberty plans will be a good choice for those gamers, who talk about downloading the 60 - 80 GB games. That will certainly cause them to see slow speeds during the times their beam is in the busy mode. But for  most satellite users, the Liberty plans seem like a good idea.
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For me lately the lnfz has worked flawless.. I can jump on YouTube and watch 2+ hrs of full HD video and it loads with no issues. As far as timing for game downloads I can start them to download over night before I go to bed or I can remote into my computer from work and start the DL and let it run all day. I do kind of agree with Steve though and that's why I haven't switched. I just think trying to download even say 2 a month that's upwards of 60GB and just don't know how the pass would react to that much usage. Not worried right now about uploading the videos, I can save them to a flash drive and upload from work.
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I think that, given what you're doing, sticking with your Free Zone plan may be the best bet. The other option is wait for January when we'll have some new Business plans available. More on that to come ...
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Ok thanks Alex, that was kind of my thoughts too is to stay where I'm at for the time being.
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Just yesterday I switched from a 15 GB w/LNFZ to the new Liberty 18 plan. We also decided to drop our Exede Voice since I was getting complaints from other household members. The Exede voice worked OK to great most of the time and you can't beat the price but I was out voted. This past year we went over our 15 GB twice with several days left but I decided to tough it out. For the most part I was able to do what we've normally done anyway just, at times, a lot slower. Some WEB sites would NOT LOAD. Anyhow I will continue (on Liberty 18) to faithfully monitor my data useage and sometime during the middle of our monthly period begin to watch some videos - I'm not in a hurry to see what the SLOWED period is like. Anyhow we've been a faithful use of Wildblue and now Exede since 2007 and from some of this and other Exede dialog it appears that new options /plans will be offered in 2016 (& beyond). It leaves me to speculate that Exede is still exploring and discovering the capabilities of Viasat1 and who knows what Viasat2 will bring. Keep up the good work.
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Hi Gregory,  You are a valued and loyal customer.  We appreciate your comments.  Thank you so much! Please send an email to exedelistens@viasat.com, if you ever need any assistance.
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I have Liberty 18 and was able to stream entire seasons of SOA without a slow down or buffering problem. Oh, once in awhile a few seconds to 30 seconds, but not enough to have me swearing. I kept waiting for the slow down, and if it came I did not notice it. I was at first annoyed that I was denied LNFZ but it maintains the same speed or so it seems. The advantage is that I am not up all night and can humanely view during early evening hours.  Worth the $10 for me. 
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Hello. Yes, I was disappointed to see the LNFZ disappear. I am on the 10 gig plan and don't normally go over or near the cap, unless it's binge time at the end of the cycle. It all depends on how much video watching/downloading I do interactively during my cycle. I also stream music on the weekends and at 128kb/s I can use a fair amount of data. I do watch my data if I'm using the Internet on a fairly constant basis. The only time I had issues with my cap was when I had house guests.

I do use the LNFZ to bit torrent concert files. I would imagine that using bit torrent on the liberty plan would run me into the liberty pass very quickly. I don't constantly grab concerts, but do leave shows in utorrent for others to share. I purchased Playon, but haven't really used it other that a couple of trial programs. It seems the only way I can record programs is with utorrent turned off or the programs buffer like crazy. Even grabbing 2 programs causes them to buffer during the recording.

What make me go hmm, is that the satellite TV services can beam all these HD programs to all these houses with multiple receivers, but satellite Internet caps the service so we can't watch HD at all or only one or two HD shows and nothing else.

It's unfortunate that us in rural areas are only serviced by capped Internet, satellite or 4gLTE.

Doug
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I too am curious about the new Liberty Pass plans. The offers in my area for existing customers are 10 18 and 30. The prices seem a bit extreme. I was thinking about going for the Liberty 10 since I do not use my LNFZ very often, but what holds me back is that on my evolution 10, our web browsing and email do not count against our Bit bucket. My husband uses forums and facebook a LOT, and that usually involves a LOT of image viewing. I would hate to have our normal usage slowed down to unusable because this type of usage counted against our bit bucket on the liberty pass plan. I would really love it if more people who were on one of the lower liberty pass plans could chime in as to how well it works for them with normal/moderate usage.
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Loren - I am fairly new to the Liberty Plan having only gone through two periods of Liberty Pass usage.  Before your Liberty Priority data is used up, there is no difference in performance compared to the Classic Plans (other than no LNFZ).  Once you have consumed the Priority data you will be operating on Liberty Pass.  At least for me, I was very pleased with the results.  Pass data speeds were typically 5 Mbps for the daylight hours and slowing down to 2-3 Mbps in the evening and then picking up again after 11 pm.  It was hard for me to leave the Classic Plan, because there is no going back, but I have been very pleased. 
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as alex said  yall would be wise to keep the free zone
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Loren, I have been on the Liberty 10 plan since November. I was never a user of the LNFZ, so the choice was not difficult once Liberty was offered. I have speeds of 18 to 21 Mbps until I use up my priority data, then on the Pass I get 4.5 to 5.5 Mbps. I highly recommend Liberty to any user that does not do large file downloads like games during the LNFZ.
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With ours after we go through our data we may as well not have Liberty pass, due to our history we are slowed to non-functional service after the data is gone.  if they are going to do that they need to have tiers...IE you get slowed a certain amount for every GB of data you use, or something like that. 
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yep I would keep the free zone since you can not ever get it back once you get rid of it, so if you did not like liberty you still can not get your free zone back regardless.