With the new FCC ruling on broadband internet of a minimum of 25 Mbps download when will we see these speeds on exede and wildblue?

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James Phillips

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A. Everett Neuman

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Good question James. Myself, I would be more interested in a higher data cap. I can live with the Exede speeds as they are now. 1 Gig @ 10 Mg or 25 Mg is still a 1 Gig hit.
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Exede Kimberly

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Thank you for the update Bobbie. Glad to see you registering good speeds. (:
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WOW, I never check my speeds and it is up to about 23 MPS. When I was only getting about 10. Thank you Exede, you have made a happy camper here. I wish I had another set of hands, I would give you 4 thumbs up. When did this happen? I am excited.
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use a finger
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Danielbo

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This is what I read a while back and checked my speed after reading this and I was blasting at about 20 mps, I was so excited, but now i am back to where I was 3 to 6 mps. Tonight is a lot worse because of the snow storm. But why did I get it that one day. Now I dont check it every day, and I am confused about this post. Are we going to faster speeds?
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I just notice it a few post up, that showed my excitement that day. Trying to read the post and understand. what is going on.
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Not in my lifetime...

The FCC can set any arbitrary standard it likes. Achieving it is another question altogether and they make no mention of how to go about achieving it.

The immediate effect in classifying "broadband" as 25 Mbps will be mobile broadband and satellite providers changing their literature to read "high speed" in order to comply with the new definition.

FWIW, a cursory examination of Exede.com shows no claim of broadband access (despite meeting the prior standard). The only reference to broadband I see is a mention that Exede achieved 140% of its advertised speeds in the FCC 2013 Measuring Broadband America report; if there are any other mentions of broadband, they are likely being scrubbed as we speak.    

I personally find the 2 dissenting members having more substance than those of the 3 approving:

http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-increases-rural-broadband-speeds-under-connect-america-fund 

Welcome to high speed internet - they might as well have set it at 100 Mbps ;)
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I'm kind of curious how someone thinks they could do this. Drive up to the satellites and crank the speed up?
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These are the same people who think that the only thing stopping exede from giving everyone unlimited data at 250 mbs for $30 a month is corporate greed. Few people seem to understand how limited satellite is compared to terrestrial internet, and why.
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Could you explain the WHY please.
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Old Labs

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Primarily because capacity is fixed at satellite launch. At launch, ViaSat-1 had a total throughput capacity of 140 Gbps according to https://www.viasat.com/viasat-1-launch

That's a shared resource among all Exede subscribers and it banks on the fact that not all 650000+ subscribers are using it simultaneously at 12 Mbps.

ViaSat-2 promises to double bandwidth economics but that doesn't necessarily mean doubling speeds, since a larger footprint implies more subscribers.   
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Old Labs

Is  Starring Matter one of your pen names.

Anyway thanks for the info.

I believe that the telephone company's have formulas that lets them sell more service than they have circuits from city to city. The formulas have served them well for years.  Most people didn't know that there wasn't a circuit for each customer, One of the tricks the telephone company's used to make work was not to GROSSLY OVER SELL service without adding more equipment (in their case  more circuits) to the system.
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Actually, the existing satellite is capable of much greater speeds, but it is limited by the ground systems for practical reasons and to share the bandwidth.  I think I read somewhere that the Surfbeam 2 modem is good to 40 Mbps.  Personally, I would take half my current speed for twice the data cap, in a a heartbeat.  
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I've noticed that every time a discussion of speed come up there is always a group of people (usually the same ones) that tell what great speeds they are getting.  They have no idea how happy I am for them !   Of course that doesn't help anyone else though..
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Hello James, you should certainly be getting faster speeds with your service. If you can send me your info to exedelistens@viasat.com, I can take a look at your equipment to see if something is out of order causing the slower speeds for you. Thanks!
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What happen to the text of James post ??
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The goodspeed's are fine, but I have been reminded of exceeds phone service this morning, they're great at disconnect. I guess it is a learning experience , I see why the people come in here kicking the doors down. It's called frustration. I have a very simple problem exede cut my cycle short 9 days and then ran a full gig. the 10th day. Which I never have done. And I want reimbursed. 
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Hey Bobbie, I sent you that PM to your FB but haven't heard back yet..as you know, I am here to help and will be happy to take care of this for you asap!
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For Exede, we'll see significant boosts in speed and data allowances with the new satellite next year. 
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They were saying that same thing for years before the Exede upgrade from Wildblue.  When it went live, only half the country got the new satellite.  And about a month or two after it was turned on in my area, installs were shut down for two years due to being at capacity, late last summer it was opened back up (24 months after it was shut down, guess some space opened up for some reason).  And yes, speeds were increased and after the initial severe bugs/issues were worked out, service isn't that bad now.  However, as you know, data allowances for ALL plans were LOWERED initially with no download zone.  Base package went from 7.5 down, 2.3 (or so) up (combined just under 10GB) to 7.5GB total up and down as an example (later increased to the 10 it is now, other plans remained lower).  After the mods on the original forum were promising we'd all be satisfied.  Data offerings have improved greatly since then for sure (but not for daytime/normal use), and other areas have additional plans available that are better in certain situations (like Evolution, Freedom, etc.), at least the launch of Gen4 caused Exede to add in the free zone.  BUT as big of an area that the new satellite is going to cover, there are going to be a lot of us that are going to need to see these "significant" increases first.  Not saying it won't happen, because it would be a bad move if it didn't this time, just saying that after the major disappointment of last time, the actual numbers need to be seen first, and anything that's said about how great it will be will be viewed with extreme caution.  Many of us were stating we'd rather have slower speeds with higher caps.  What's the use of having a Corvette if it's only got a one gallon gas tank, with maybe a reserve tank that only lets you drive after midnight?  Sure, there are ways to make it work, but a Volt or whatever with a normal tank that can be used anytime would be more practical.
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I have absolutely no interest in slower speeds. Higher data allowances, of course. If I wanted slower speed, I would switch to HughesNet Gen 4.

That will never happen, Exede is so much more reliable and has many advantages.
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That's not what I meant.  Of course the new service "needs" to be faster than the old service.  I meant at the time the Exede plans were announced, we were all on Wildblue, .5 to 1.5 meg (getting forgetful, I think the Pro pack was 1.5?).  They announced up to 12 meg service, and lowered the data caps from what the old ones had been for years.  We were arguing that an option somewhere a bit lower would be more practical with a higher data cap than the old plans, because quite honestly, lower caps than what had been available for several years with Wildblue seemed a bit insulting at the time.  5 meg service would have been considerably faster than the old service, or 3 meg in non Viasat-1 areas like here.  As I said, this was before they added on the free zone and all that, so at the time that wasn't a factor.  They could have at a minimum kept the plans with the same caps, even if a slight increase in price (with a lower capped cheaper option too).  Just saying, and citing that Corvette example I gave.  Although the Internet was faster, couldn't do as much on it.

I'll stand by what I stated before, because it's the truth.
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Well, this got bumped again today already so I'll make another comment.  You say you have no interest in slower speeds, which as I said, the newer satellite will have to be faster.  But, not everyone thinks that way.  When I couldn't upgrade to Exede5 I went to the now defunct Millenicom at 3G.  With a roof antenna I averaged about 2.5 meg at least, 100% of the time.  A few months later, they upgraded to 4G and I got 20-30 meg 100% of the time.  Millenicom raised to $90 for the 20GB cap, at the same time the regional carrier upgraded from 2G that performed at dialup speed to what they called 4G, up to 4 meg, or up to 8 meg.  For one month they left the service unlimited as it had always been, then they stated they would lower it gradually to 100GB cap.  It's been almost a year and it's still at 200GB.  But, I pay less than $60 total for the up to 4 meg.  Know what?  I don't miss the speed one bit, never did.  Pages load instantly except for extremely heavy sites, and the difference is negligible.  Downloads take a bit longer, but I can do them at any time compared to not being able to do them.  Also, my tv has the apps built in, Amazon detects as HD and looks GORGEOUS, plays with no issue.  If I was concerned with speed I'd up to the 8 meg pack for $25 more (I suspect with my marginal signal with a booster I wouldn't see it anyway, at least much more).  I can understand wanting the speed especially to attempt downloading during the free zone, but if they increase speed at the sacrifice of quantity, then I view that as different.  I'd rather have slower with a higher cap (which is what we were trying to get them to do at the Exede launch, as I said, it would have still been faster than the old service).
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I thought I answered it Kim, but guess not  sure you can message me.
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Since we are not Facebook friends It will be under your messages in the "Other" folder.  

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