The unlimited data states that after 150gb, that exede may prioritize other people's data ahead of mine. I would like to know what that means in terms of speeds for me during those times. Is there still a garaunteed speed? Could I be as low as kb/s during those times? etc.
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Think of it more as de-prioritization.
With de-prioritization, an ISP isn’t limiting the your data. Instead, the ISP has the option placing your requests behind those of other subscribers usually based on a prespecified amount of data usage. The result will be lower speeds during peak usage periods. During non-peak usage periods, it may have no perceptible impact.
On Exede, the magnitude of decrease is largely dependent on the current utilization of your assigned spot beam - some beams are more heavily populated with users than others and users that are de-prioritized often report speeds less than 1 Mbps during prime time (some to even .2 Mpbs including myself).
The current "Unlimited Data" plans use de-prioritization after 150GB - during non peak hours speeds "up to" the plan's limit may occur.
Liberty plans use both throttling and deprioritization on reaching various thresholds. During non peak hours speeds between 1 - 5 Mbps may occur.
Classic plans tend to use simple throttling to what most consider unuasable speeds. Speeds are likely good for only email (using a desktop client) or simple (i.e. real simple) web browsing.
No minimum speeds are guaranteed - ever, regardless of speed and are advertised as up to. Your current speeds will always be impacted by current utilization levels.
Think of it this way... if ViaSat were to guarantee a minimum speed of even 1 Mpbs for all customers at any given time on ViaSat-1, they would need to limit the number of customers assigned to ViaSat-1 to an order of magnitude somewhere 140,000 since ViaSat-1's capacity is 140Gbps (140,000 Mbps) - we'd all be paying approximately 4+ times what we're paying now ;) Yeah I know that's not how it really works. it was meant to be figurative...
With de-prioritization, an ISP isn’t limiting the your data. Instead, the ISP has the option placing your requests behind those of other subscribers usually based on a prespecified amount of data usage. The result will be lower speeds during peak usage periods. During non-peak usage periods, it may have no perceptible impact.
On Exede, the magnitude of decrease is largely dependent on the current utilization of your assigned spot beam - some beams are more heavily populated with users than others and users that are de-prioritized often report speeds less than 1 Mbps during prime time (some to even .2 Mpbs including myself).
The current "Unlimited Data" plans use de-prioritization after 150GB - during non peak hours speeds "up to" the plan's limit may occur.
Liberty plans use both throttling and deprioritization on reaching various thresholds. During non peak hours speeds between 1 - 5 Mbps may occur.
Classic plans tend to use simple throttling to what most consider unuasable speeds. Speeds are likely good for only email (using a desktop client) or simple (i.e. real simple) web browsing.
No minimum speeds are guaranteed - ever, regardless of speed and are advertised as up to. Your current speeds will always be impacted by current utilization levels.
Think of it this way... if ViaSat were to guarantee a minimum speed of even 1 Mpbs for all customers at any given time on ViaSat-1, they would need to limit the number of customers assigned to ViaSat-1 to an order of magnitude somewhere 140,000 since ViaSat-1's capacity is 140Gbps (140,000 Mbps) - we'd all be paying approximately 4+ times what we're paying now ;) Yeah I know that's not how it really works. it was meant to be figurative...
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Bev, Champion
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Old Labs is correct. Those of us on Unlimited plans will NEVER be hard throttled, no matter how much data we use. (Liberty, Freedom and, Classic plans are all hard throttled after the priority data is used.) Once we have used 150 GB in a month, the Gateways will handle data to and form our computers AFTER they handle data too and from everyone that has not exceeded their priority data on our beam.
That means that if a lot of people are online on our beam at the time, we might see slower speeds but, if not a lot of people are online on our beam right then, we aren't slowed at all, even if we have used 500 GB that month.
What we do get instead is video data optimization, depending on the plan as to what resolution we are locked into for video.
That means that if a lot of people are online on our beam at the time, we might see slower speeds but, if not a lot of people are online on our beam right then, we aren't slowed at all, even if we have used 500 GB that month.
What we do get instead is video data optimization, depending on the plan as to what resolution we are locked into for video.
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What speeds did you see when you were de-prioritized? or was it just your ping/response time slower?
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Bev, Champion
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I have not exceeded 150 GB used since switching to an Unlimited plan so, I can't tell you what those speeds are like on my beam.
It will vary by beam and, time of day (Utilization of that beam) and be slower when more users are active on your beam than when fewer users are active. You may see times when you have used more than 150 GB and, speeds are not slowed at all and, other times when you have used more than 150 GB and speeds approximate dial up, or anything in between , depending on the utilization of your beam at the time.
On my beam I expect the slowest to be about 5Mbps, but, as I said, that varies by beam.
It will vary by beam and, time of day (Utilization of that beam) and be slower when more users are active on your beam than when fewer users are active. You may see times when you have used more than 150 GB and, speeds are not slowed at all and, other times when you have used more than 150 GB and speeds approximate dial up, or anything in between , depending on the utilization of your beam at the time.
On my beam I expect the slowest to be about 5Mbps, but, as I said, that varies by beam.
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Curious if you’ve experienced the de-prioritization of you data yet and what speeds you’ve had if so.
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The problem is it is all beam dependant and also based on the time of day. There is no right or wrong answer here unfortunately.
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What we do get instead is video data optimization, depending on the plan as to what resolution we are locked into for video.There is the problem. Since it's not really 'unlimited' (at priority speed), let the user eat up their 150GB however they choose, then de-prioritize their data.
I'm not signing up for a resolution-locked 150GB plan ('unlimited').
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Beth Chambers
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Of course we only dismiss that particular speed test when it yields a good result but it's just as accurate either way.
Needless to say, exceed your data usage threshold and all bets are off particularly on weekends or during peak usage periods. Very easy to exceed 100GB in 15 days. It's probably just as important with unlimited "plans" to know exactly what's using data and manage it tightly - a lost art except for those who get by on much less.
The landscape has changed in two years and we all know what happened to those legacy 150GB plans... but everything old is new again.
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