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I do play SCUM, Smite, Battlefield 1 a 4 as well as Rift, Aion, Bless, Terra and a few others but, it takes a bit to adapt your rotation to the lag. With games like Aion, you have to weave with autoattack to compensate for the lag, making keypresses about 1 second apart and, that means your DPS is lower and, you are handicapped in PvP. You can be one of the best but, it takes practice and, adjusting your rotation and skills to suit the lag.
As for speeds after you use all of your priority data on what I assume is an "Unlimited" plan, that totally depends on congestion. Prime time you may see speeds below 1 Mbps but, off peak you might have normal speed even after using all of your data. I can't promise you will be able to stream after you use the 150 GB. Gaming really isn't affected unless you need to download a patch, then that might be a bit slow when you're deprioritized. As I said, the bigger issue with gaming is latency and, that's the laws of physics, no ping reducing proxy or trick is going to change your ping, it's 600-800 at BEST and can lag down to over 1000 in raids and such.
The call is yours to make, but, I'd go with Viasat unless you prefer MOBA/Battle Royal and FPS games greatly and can't be happy without them, in which case fixed wireless would be the only hope of playing those games.
Maybe a low cost fixed wireless, small plan for those and Viasat for everything else would work for you.
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VeteranSatUser, Champion
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Bev, so we may not be able to stream after 150GB? That would suck cause we love to stream Netflix, etc, and do not have cable so that's our go to.
Oliver, unfortunately I wouldn't even know where to start in building my own wireless link lol.. thanks for all the info thus far! A lot to think about.
As for the fixed wireless, there is no priortization or data caps which is good, justa. It more expensive with slower mbps, up to 6mbps which is kinda crappy, or so I think so
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To build your own setup you first need to find a home or business in area covered by cable, dsl, local high speed carrier and purchase for that location. You don't want to tell provider you'll be sending the signal elsewhere. For reasons unknown they really dislike the idea. Next you need a modem to port from carrier to a satellite dish (ubiquity is a go to). That dish will beam line of sight up to about 26 miles where your home dish is set. Receive signal on matching dish, drop into a router and spread it out at your place. On your end you'll want an ethernet setup with a power over ether attachment to carry signal and send it to your equipment. Shop hard and you should be able to set it up for minimum of $500usd. Add bells and whistles like cams, surveillance of ingress/egress routes like a driveway, prize petunia/peone/pot bed and the hay burning horse stall with a nose or neigh call feature, then double more hardware needed and it all has costs.
Pre plan this on paper and know what you want vs what is available. The more input/output devices the more complicated setup gets. Once you get it dialed, print or draw a color coded map listing parts where placed and service unit descriptions with model numbers so others can fix if/when it goes sideways and you are off skiing for the day. Plainly label in visible place with arrows pointing at power switches and reset buttons so they can find and fix quickly.
If you have any other options explore them. Satellite internet is for we who have NO OTHER choice due to location/cost of installing phone or cable. (In my case PacBell or GTE haven't decided who gets to nail me on install. Last guesstimate was 85,000usd to run a phone cable a bit over 6 miles on same poles that bring electricity to literally the end of the line. Last electric drop is my water pump and picnic grounds. In my electricity scenario it has been better after cajoling PGE into shifting transformers around to spread meters over different line sets. That allows one or more to keep power when outages occur. Not always but enough to make it worth while. Hope my random methodology gives you a start.
It isn't as complex as you think. Primarily you need somewhere in providers service area to get service then a 2 way link to your house. Very Small Aperture Telecomm (VSAT) is usually least expensive and most reliable. During heavy weather especially lightning there will be speed degradation. A cloudburst will slow it down. During May and October there is high solar flare activity which also impacts satellite service. At times, depending on location and direction you are shipping signals, outages can go from negligible to complete outage. Be sure to have approximate costs you will be covering when trying to find a place and offer an incentive such as cash, yardwork, some of that pot :) or whatever will help. Also try to make your equipment at their place as inconspicuous as you can. An example is cellular repeater towers; along Highway 50 between Folsom and Lake Tahoe you'll see perfectly symmetrical trees along the road that look too perfect. (cell towers) Sometimes it will be a water tower with pump house at bottom or an over large area light. The repeater may be as small as a boot box but the camouflage can be as large as a windmill tower. In a windy area you could have your setup generating its own and spare electricity. Solar panels on a pole is good too.
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1. Viasat is different in some areas. So you could have fast or slow internet depending on where you live and you can’t take a chance with that.
2. More data for cheaper.
3. More reliable speeds, there is no “peak” on fixed wireless internet like Viasat.
4. When you run out of data on Viasat you $10 for 1gig (which is stupid if you ask me but whatever). With AT&T fixed wireless you get 50 gigs for $10. Hm.
5. Low latency on fixed wireless.
That’s all I can think of.
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Why can existing customers NOT find plan info w/o calling some 800 number and spend time cajoling some poor clerk into quickly telling what the best plan for the money happens to be at moment of asking? If we are actually talking to folks who can query setup, make nominal changes as needed to fix issue customer is having that is a lot of wasted time/money on both sides. Having set up technical, network and general call centers from plan through facility build to install equipment and hiring initial employees I see the CSN (customer service nightmare) from hands on perspective.
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Gabe, most viasat plans in, you can buy more data.For the OP, that's a moot point. The OP is looking at an Unlimited plan vs Fixed Wireless. One cannot buy additional data for an Unlimited plan.
Steve Frederick-VS1/Beam314, Champion
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Martin appears to be on his relaxation meds already and the weekend isn't quite here yet.
GabeU, Champion
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So Gabe, just what is on the other side of far edge of the universe? ;))There is no edge. But, if there were, I suspect it would be nothing but an endless fudge brownie. :)
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High latency of viasat is definitely a downside but much faster speed, but that doesn't really matter if I am lagging haha.
Would I be able to stream on fixed wireless though even though the max mbps is 6. That seems pretty low for both wanting to stream and game (wouldn't do streaming and gaming at the same time)
VeteranSatUser, Champion
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They dont charge you $10 more/gig with an unlimited plan. Sone of the old legacy plans support "buy more data".
Also verify you are going to get 150GB of priority data on your plan. I was not aware Viasat offered any plan that still gives that much priority data.
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But I'm upgrading to Verizon's new pretty much actually unlimited prepaid jetpack plan that was launched last week. If it works as well as their prepaid on phones here (average 15 down at all times of day 10 miles from the tower). Activated on a jetpack, it's 1080p streaming currently, with no data threshold, other than prioritized behind postpaid (so, won't work great in a congested area).
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I question the plan prices the OP posted. Might want to double check them.
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I have a VZ smart hub coming. Not a great device, but it's a router (possibly poor one), and has an ethernet port. So it would always be on which is better for home use. They are relatively cheap on eBay. Might work with this plan, might not, just thought I'd try it. "They" say it should work.
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Bev, Champion
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Of course always make sure your squad/group know you're running unavoidable high ping so, might need a little extra defending/protecting/healing until you get the hang of playing that way.
Me, being a Wildblue/Exede/Viasat customer and a gamer for 15 years, well yeah in non FPS games (Rift, Aion, etc...) I'm in the top 25 PvP but I've had years to work out how to do that. Hint for gamers: ranged classes are your mains and ranged with DPS and Control skills are the best. You know, root, DPS, bind, DPS, slow, DPS so they can't run away for your lag happy character LOL.
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VeteransatUser: I will double check them in the morning but they said it was a deal going on. Could be true, but maybe not. I was surprised "the deal" was 100 mbps for that price I listed above. (50 first 3 months, then 70 thereafter)
Either way, I guess I am thinking that fixed wireless may be better for me then. Although it is more money for less mbps, it provides less latency, and a true unlimited data plan with no prioritization
VeteranSatUser, Champion
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Eating 800GB/month on Viasat? The system is not designed for individual customers to use that much.
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Barg_: I looked into the verizon jet pack plan, it looks great but they also said they don't provide service in the area. What a shock
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Viasat.com/internet , put in your zip code. Those are the plans in your area. I highly doubt 150GB at $70 (plus lease fee). Especially long term. If a dealer is saying that, I'd be skeptical. I'd also get it in signed writing. And I'd state it here again because I still would doubt it....
VeteranSatUser, Champion
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Like if I were to go with Viasat, then 3 months down the line, I don't like the service/coverage, will they hit me with penalties and whatnot if I try to cancel?
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Apparently there is now a way to cancel without an early termination fee by prepaying up front for no long term contract service (see early termination fees):
https://help.viasat.com/articles/Denver_FAQ/Fees-and-instructions-for-returning-equipment-for-discon...
Regardless, be sure to read the customer agreement and unlimited data policy before install (you're not locked in until you accept the agreement at install time) over at:
https://www.exede.com/legal/
VeteranSatUser, Champion
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Given your usage parameters, I would go with the fixed wireless.
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So i can't complain about our service.
We have a much too big home and wifi connection in certain locations sucked, the viasat modem router combo doesn't give you the best wifi, so i recently purchased a linksys triband router (looks like a porcupine, 6 antennas) what a difference, i get 25 mbps in the basement and outside by the pool.
I was encouraged by V2 because i thought many would migrate over freeing up V1 and it has taken some time but i think that has happened.
So bring on V3 it will be good for all.
Martin, pretty ingenious, i remember my cousins in Jersey the inside joke was none of them paid for HBO, they pulled some wires from a neighbors home or something.
Hats off for your technological savy, as long as is legal no worries.
It is a shame that we have to do all the things we do just to do what 85 percent of the country takes for granted, reasonable/low prices, blistering speeds, cloud, and no data limits.
But i do enjoy my clean air, privacy, quiet, and country living.
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Good on him!!
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VeteranSatUser, Champion
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Barg, Bev, VeteranSat: you guys were right, I called back and there was a whole miscommunication between the 2 reps I spoke with. I got an email saying that for that price in my area I would get the bronze package. I knew the deal sounded too goo to be true. I cancelled the installation appointment and am going with fixed wireless now. Im praying all goes well with that and have no issues there, so fingers crossed!
But thanks again for everyone's knowledge and input on my questions
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