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Had a fun day today , Woke up at 2:09 got dressed just in time to look out my bedroom window and see a white car white truck and a dark suv coming up fast and made it to the backdoor in time to see 3 cops getting out and walking around my yard asking me if i'd seen two men that had escaped from jail , They told me my house was the last spot they was reported at ( I have no clue how they knew this?) and they ask me if they could search the place with beagles so i told them go ahead they got two dogs out of the back of the truck and searched for about 30 min then told me they lost the scent behind my house it disappeared into thin air , They spent the next 20 min interrogating me about any vehicles i heard or seen come up my driveway , They didnt believe me that i hadn't seen or heard anything and think that i had picked them up and drove them off somewhere but finally left then about 10 -15 min later 2 white trucks  and a suv come back up this time with 3 diff cops asking me questions for another 15 or so min ( the suv ran over a gas jug i had in the yard for my weedeater ) then told me to wait outside while they went in the house to question my bro , One of the cops that stayed outside was walking around looking through windows etc i told him hes free to search anywhere he likes to see that i'm not hiding anyone and after awhile they finally left then 15ish min later a white truck pulls up with 2 more cops in it one gets out to run 2 more dogs looking for a scent while the other went to the back of my property for about 30 min before they finally left , Had a interesting day got interrogated basically twice and cops thinks i'm hiding two escaped prisoners or helped them escape lol
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Hope they catch them. Would make me a little nervous if 2 escaped convicts were running around loose in my area. Also, are you all armed just in case?
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I had that happen once but, only because I actually knew the escapee and, he owns property on my road. Everyone on the road was suspected of aiding him until they found him hold up in an old hunting cabin a few miles away.

Gotta love it when signs on the front of houses around here read things like "We don't dial 911" and, "Never mind the dog, beware of owner."  LOL (and people ask why I have my CCL - really, you know where I live and you have to ask?
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I have a somewhat similar nervousness as I live within three miles of two NY State prisons, one being right across the street from the other.  Though it's been nearly 20 years since the last prisoner escape from either facility, or at least as far as I know, if they were trying to get out of the public eye it would most likely be in my general direction in which they would head. 
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Is this social media or a review site for this business?
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@rob if u gotta ask its amazon
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"Is this social media or a review site for this business?"
Neither, but both.

It's a place where unpaid Viasat and Verizon shills hang out, argue, complain, and in general cause trouble for, and annoy, those that cross our paths.  Luckily for you, I'm only here part time.
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Where are you located Gwen?

Who needs the drama here when you had it outside your front porch!

Bev. I just assumed you and your neighbors are all outlaws to begin with! So that is probably regular drama for you. Lol
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Gwen, what kind of speeds do you get on Freedom during off-peak hours when going over 150GB? Just curious because I've been on that plan for over a year and have not gone over for fear of the service being unusable for the rest of my billing period.
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Gwen, what kind of speeds do you get on Freedom during off-peak hours when going over 150GB? Just curious because I've been on that plan for over a year and have not gone over for fear of the service being unusable for the rest of my billing period.
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It is my understanding once you go over the 150GB Freedom "hard cap", the internet is suppose to be basically unuseable.

So perhaps that is being enforced now where as before maybe they were more lax on it.
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Now now, don't be including that redneck across the street with the outlaw truck driver I married - two different breeds. xD
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With you being from Arkansas, I could say isn't everybody related anyhow, but I will be nice :)
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Nothing like that goes on here.  The most exciting thing that happened here yesterday, the neighbor drove his utv over, about 5 miles or so, to ask if he could hunt coyotes over on one pasture.  Ended up talking about 40 minutes out by the fence where I met him (I was out by there anyway), at 10 degrees with about 30mph wind gusts or so (but a person's in weather most of the day, not a big deal).

You guys posting speed tests remind me of speeds when I left Wildblue.  I was paying for 0.5 meg, and I was lucky to get 0.1 there at the last especially after they started Exede 5.  Also, they were letting on new customers with the pro plan at 1.5 meg, higher cap, and same price, but not for existing of course.  And shortly after around that time is when they closed the beam for the first few years.
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The drops and reboots happen on the previous 2 generations of mifi devices too. Quite annoying.

Here is how you get the prepaid unlimited with the 8800L (I think).

1) Buy an 8800 off Ebay or Amazon. You are going to pay around $200 (+/- 20).
2) Go to the Verizon prepaid site, select use your device, and I believe that will work when you enter your serial number or whatever it is called for the 8800.

I have a mifi device a couple generations old. It is out of contract. Mulling over canceling that contract and going to try it with prepaid unlimited. If I can get 15Mbps with it, that is 15 times faster than what Viasat can deliver me.
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@ GabeU

When engaged on their site to buy a 8800L, you can't find that unlimited plan. You are shown plans based upon size/cost/month...and no UnLimited exists.  Further, when looking up this MiFi via Prepaid, it don't exist.

Best info I found: "The internal plan code for the Prepaid Unlimited Jetpack plan is 28366. Reps should be able to look-up the plan with this code.

So, imho...go to a Verizon store, and use the above....otherwise, u-know-what
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@Jab etc.
VoLTE works on the phone itself over its connection, not connecting to something else's wifi.  It has the voice calls go over the phone's LTE connection (I set up my current phone that way).  Maybe you mean "wifi calling", that does connect to wifi and make calls (works without a cell signal, but you need an internet connection).  I've never used/set that way up.
https://www.ecnmag.com/news/2016/08/verizon-schedules-prepaid-volte-wi-fi-calling-launch-fall

I've seen the issues with some jetpacks.  And yes, you can only get certain models as "prepaid".  So, if you get one that isn't prepaid specifically, I ~think you'd need to use a byod prepaid sim kit (but, best to check).  So, you could buy anything that's in stock and just do it that way, and it ~should work, maybe....  Like I said, I ended up with this one, but I got it from Amazon.  https://www.verizonwireless.com/internet-devices/ellipsis-jetpack-mhs900l-prepaid/?sku=sku2400118  It's in stock as of now, so you could "pretend" to buy it, add to cart, and select the unlimited plan, at least look at the plan somewhere other than the main prepaid page.  I planned on immediately putting it in something else (always on, ethernet out), so I didn't get a "great" jetpack just for a backup.  The Verizon Smarthub doesn't have an external antenna hookup, but it was $50 or less on ebay, mine was $44 new, and the sim card fits, it's the newer cheap device and I had the cell booster so I didn't need the antenna hookup.  The Novatel t1114 does have antenna connectors, but I think it takes a bit of work to get to the sim (just some different screws), and I think you need a sim adapter (cheap from Amazon etc.).  Neither of those are "great" either, but they should work.  Except, they don't support all of Verizon's frequencies/bands.  In some areas, you might get better speeds with the other bands.  Another budget option would be a router that takes either a usb lte stick (if Verizon has a decent current one) or uses wifi as wan to a jetpack.  I saw Netgear had a router that took lte sticks, I had a Cradlepoint.  Higher end, more reliable stuff would probably be MoFI or Pepwave, but $$$.  I was pretty sure 5G would take forever to get here, but I didn't see spending a lot on what I got, as long as the cheapo route worked.

The higher end jetpacks might get a better connection that the cheap options like mine, but I find using a jetpack for home use a little annoying.  I did a little when I first got Millenicom years ago.  If I wanted a jetpack, I'd probably get a used one, and try to see a model that didn't have as many issues.  8800l, even with a few issues, would probably be the first choice though.



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@barg

A review suggests MHS900L is strictly low end, with weak reception. Inseego sells their 8800L on Amazon at $50.00 above VZW's price.

VZW should be fully aware of ID (IMEI) in terms of unit being used...point here, it could be fruitless to buy from Amazon, and then find out VZW will not light it up on unlimited.  VZW's programmers run each customer thru their online maze...When I tried to purchase the 8800L, only postpaid plans existed.

8800L unit can download at extremely high speeds, where available.. A Smartphone with MIMO (Samsung S8) can come close to one gigabit download...if, if, and if.
An indoor MIMO Antenna with 2 TS-9 Connectors can be bought for 8800L. Realistically, from 15Mbps to 120Mbps, if tower is capable.

5G is a rural pipe dream...where population density is greatest is where it will roll out.  Rolling out 4GLTE was a no brainer...with increases in user loading.

Cell boosters "kill" MIMO...only Mode 1 - "This is a fallback mode using a single transmit and receive antenna, essentially disabling MIMO." To my awareness, there are no MIMO powered signal boosters.

Thanks for tidbits, but I think its best to check with VZW store, and confirm this: "The internal plan code for the Prepaid Unlimited Jetpack plan is 28366. Reps should be able to look-up the plan with this code.
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@jab.  Yes, sounds good.  I know the jetpack I got is rated poor, knew that when I got it.  But it activated fine without talking to anyone, and like I said backup, if the main goes down, until it's fixed.  Other places might have jetpacks, like Walmart, maybe Best Buy??  But, of course, if they aren't in stock from one seller or the store directly, someone will jack up the price hoping to get a sucker.  The jetpack I got was in stock direct from Amazon at the time, and it was $40, vs. $50 at Verizon directly.

Lots of ifs.  The cheapo jetpack, my phones, "visiting" phones, higher end, iphones, etc., all get relatively the same speed in my house with the booster and in my yard in an ok signal place.  Not much difference here.  I plan to do testing, if and when I get some time to get up on the roof and point the antenna at the other tower.  Not winter probably, 60mph wind gusts starting soon, -10 in a couple nights, other things to do besides being on the roof....

I haven't seen a booster as you mentioned either, but didn't specifically look.  My goal years ago was to have cell service in the house in general, at the time I got the cheapest kit of that type, but swapped the roof antenna.  Nice when they all work with no wires.  I'll do some more testing with the towers, see what they are capable of closer, if that's changed.  And check with a higher end device.  If I see significantly different numbers, I might try something different with antennas.  But, really, unless something changes, I'm satisfied where it is, I don't really use faster anyway.

If you get something worked out, good luck.  I know it won't work well everywhere.  And with that code, even if you have a clueless rep, they ~should be able to hook something up.
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With all this tractor talk, who is going to tell the tractor story?!?!?
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If theyre snapping turtles be  careful not to get bit by one , I hear theyre beaks are very sharp and can really damage a finger/hand , I'd deff use a fish net to catch them with and you can get a small plastic kiddie swimming pool at walmart for like 10-20 bucks for em
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They are.  I can pick them up and put them in a large bucket to transfer them.  I've picked them up before and know how to do it properly.  

I have a slow moving part of a stream I can put them in.  If they want another pond, that's on them.  
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So no sharing your bathtub with them then ? lol i had some i found at the river oneday brought them home and put them in the bathtub till my mother found them lol 
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Um...nah.  No tub sharing.  LOL.   
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Gabe can star in a reboot of Call of the Wildman! Just replace Turtle man with Gabe! 
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@barg - "News" you say...

The democratic system is challenged by the failure in television because our evening news programmes have gone for an attempt to entertain as much as to inform in the desperate fight for ratings. Walter Cronkite

Yes, news...its there....
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Jab watching 10 hours of television a year.

At least that is one statement he made I have 100% confidence in :)
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Nothing to be sorry about my tower is what it is. Viasat speeds with low latency.
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@Kay...8800L...2x to 3x faster

Getting a device's tech specs will suggest how fast under ideal conditions

LTE UE Category & Class Definitions

8800L is listed as
LTE Performance Category: Category 18
(Max Theoretical Speed: 1200Mbps Down / 150Mbps Up)
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@all

MiFi 6620L is listed as LTE Category 4, which is 150Mbps DL, & 50UL

For those interested, MiFi 6620L may be the better choice...one site indicates an external antenna can be installed.  On WiFi side, it does 5.0 GHz MIMO, so if your WiFi devices can do MIMO, better speeds will be seen. 

FWIW...with increasing users on a tower, down goes signal strength, and decreases in data rates the farther away from tower.

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@Kay...8800L...2x to 3x faster

Getting a device's tech specs will suggest how fast under ideal conditions

LTE UE Category & Class Definitions

8800L is listed as
LTE Performance Category: Category 18
(Max Theoretical Speed: 1200Mbps Down / 150Mbps Up)
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@all

MiFi 6620L is listed as LTE Category 4, which is 150Mbps DL, & 50UL

For those interested, MiFi 6620L may be the better choice...one site indicates an external antenna can be installed.  On WiFi side, it does 5.0 GHz MIMO, so if your WiFi devices can do MIMO, better speeds will be seen. 

FWIW...with increasing users on a tower, down goes signal strength, and decreases in data rates the farther away from tower.

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So you're saying Verizon's speeds are not guaranteed and "up to"?

I think I've heard that someplace before, but could be wrong....
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Fake news
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Well since it's about fun - my fun for the day. one of my grand daughters eating caviar on toast while perched on my lawn tractor - rural life at its finest.


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Nah, if they come by, they can have caviar too, got a bit of a deal on Ossetra. half price if I bought 16 oz. or more. I bought 32 oz. So yes, some of it went out as gifts, kept a pound of it for myself though.

You can feed the grand kids that stuff when you have a pound of it xD

As for a palace, nope, not even a mansion. 2 bedroom, one bath 650 sq ft house is all and, 240 sq ft of that is kitchen. But no mortgage, no loans, low property taxes and, a lot of effort into being frugal on everyday stuff means we get to enjoy a bit of luxury in our old age. xD
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Oh my.  I had to do a double take.  I thought you said you got a bit of a deal on Olestra!  I'm thinking, there's NO deal on Olestra that would be worth it!  LOL.

Frugality.  An unfortunate necessity.  
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That is premium caviar.

Sort of like the Viasat-2 platinum plan.

And I thought my house was small!
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My house is about 450 sq feet.  
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I can see Russia from my house - no wait, that's Spotsylvania, same difference except Central Park has merchandise on the shelves.
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@Gwen

I have the IMEI of this MiFi 6620L I'm buying, and I ran it thru VZW's site, via BYOD first, then on to prepaid plans.  I was able to connect with that $70.00 prepaid unlimited plan...$65.00 with autopay.

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@jab, not complaining, a person gets used to it when you're in it every day.  Chores need done every day, no matter what.  Blizzards are interesting, also when a person is sick, or after minor surgery, but, it is what it is.  Cold is hard on "things", and warm one day, cold the other, then warm again is also hard on things.  It was -10 when I got in last night, didn't look at the official low, wind didn't seem quite as bad as they said.  It was -4 when I went out this morning, before the sun started coming up.
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@barg.... Cold

Yes....its getting cold....but in Australia, the Madden Julian Oscillation in the tropics has brought 46C [114.8F] in parts of New South Wales earlier this month.

U.S. Postal Service stops delivering mail because it's too cold in the
Midwest
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The deep freeze has a firm grip on the Upper Midwest with an
AccuWeather RealFeel® Temperature of 77 degrees below zero Fahrenheit
reported at Thief River Falls, Minnesota, on Tuesday evening.
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It's pretty bad here.  Lots of things closed and travel bans across the area, and when there are wide area, blizzard related travel bans around Buffalo, you know it's bad.  

- 10 as we speak.  Getting colder.  Lots of pipes are going to freeze tonight.  
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@Gabe

Some nice photos showing cold weather effects: The Midwest is colder than Antarctica thanks to the polar vortex — here's what it looks like

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Good pics   Here's some from my area during today's storm...

https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/31/gallery11848/#image=1
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In a desperate attempt to get back on topic, did they catch them or are you still a suspect for harboring them? Asking for a friend seeking closure...
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@casual , Lol he drives a corvette , Might consider it if he wasnt 66 yrs lol and na far as i know they never caught the guys , Cops prolly still think i helped them escape lol it's like 25 or so here in florence atm feel bad for em if they dont have anywhere to go tonight its going to be down to 19 i think the weather said lol after being out in crappy weather all night they might wish they was back in jail 
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Careful, I resemble that remark and may lash out with my hurrycane.
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@Casual Observer

@Gwen still has photos to show, and maybe, her hotspot experience to be told.  Surely, observers here have an interest.

@Gwen....Imgur.com is a good site to upload photos....no charge, and they can be posted on forums, if allowed.  Chats/messages are allowed.

@Old Labs....Has Ralph Nader changed his name to Russ Rader, and now works for Virginia-based nonprofit the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, as says now, “Raising the speed limit never comes without a cost,”.  Nader to Rader....Ralph to Russ.  PS: Watch out for the walrus....
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Yes they do Vetsat, seen it personally, depends on the type and how hungry they are. Plus, https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/drought/forag...
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@Gwen

Rawlins is just an oil town....there is much more to Wyoming....Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, Sheridan going west, Jackson Hole.  I've been by these places numerous times...

There are digital scanners for converting 35mm negatives/prints, and even flatbed scanners can be used.

@barg

Straw Bale homes are quite sturdy

Update on Straw Bale Building in Pakistan

Straw Bale House Survives Violent Shaking At Earthquake Lab

Santa Cruz - One Capitola couple lives the good life—in a home built primarily from bales of straw! 

I live on a family homestead when they 'migrated' from Maine, and there is still an ice "cellar," and a storm/potato cellar here...just barely....roofs are about gone.  Their house was a pre-cut from New York, but years ago, the hand dug cistern adjacent to house caved in, which caused house foundation to fail, which caused structural damage to house...history now.  Most folks don't know what an ice cellar is about:-)
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Eat mor chikin
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@Jab,

Try to keep up... at least learn to identify the correct thread of the conversation. Now you've started and entirely new one - eleven and counting.
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If it wasnt for casual observers we would have no observers at all.
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When exactly did this topic jump yhe shark?

I think when Gwen said she got up at 2:00pm.

Thanks everybody. I'm outta here!
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Maybe you are the egg man?
I thought the walrus.  
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Gwen must have found some B horror movies.

Bela Lugosi and Boris Karloff or something like that.

John was the Walrus

The Beatles had two distinct periods. Pre-experimental drugs and on a variety of drugs. On drugs is where Rubber Soul came in and went from there. Dont care for the pre-drug era. Drugs is what helped make Sgt. Peppers the great album of all time (although Dark Side of the Moon is right there for me).

Will Viasat launch a satellite to cover the internet needs of the dark side? Awful cold and lonely there, but you wouldn't have to worry about congestion!
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@Vet

Originally, they thought VS-2 might offer some video....but, I suspect more business customers knocked on their door, and poof went that idea.  Somewhere, I seem to recall, they do stream some news-type video for corporate planes, not commercial.

Viasat serves its stockholders, who want the best return on their investment.  And most likely, consumer service does not pay as much as corporate/government accounts.  Fewer headaches with corp/gov...its a no brainer what they would prefer.
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Agreed.

I wouldn't be surprised if some point they sold the residential subs to Hughesnet and focused government and commercial.
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I've got a few subscribers in mind they can have for free - they'll be here shortly, it's the weekend.

Does NRTC get to keep the satellite?
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@Gwen

 I'm 7 miles away from my tower and I don't have an antenna and I get 4 bars on a bad weather day 5 on a sunny day. Now I am on top of a mountain tho so that helps. If your only 4 miles out you should get a good signal unless something blocks you. Before I would buy an antenna I would wait and test the speeds out first. We are deprioritized at all times on this plan so I would wait and do some testing first. Hope you get great speeds with yours as I do, My best speed I have seen is 118mbps dwn with 90's upload. When I first got it in December my best was 20 to 40 dwn but atm it is very good. I still have Viasat for now just to see if Verizon holds up to the plan or not.
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Didn't see your earlier post - my SOHO is a two antenna model, but that's the place I got it from.
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@panhead
ASUS RT-N66U - Yes, Access Point(AP) mode exists, but the SNAFU for linking MiFi to router is router must insert MiFi's password to login.  ASUS router can detect MiFi unit.   With OEM firmware, I have not found a way to slip in MiFi's password.

@all
USB Tethering to a desktop/laptop will consume CPU time.  This explains the sluggish response to opening network menu, and sub-menus.  Once tethered, surfing/etc works fine.  Using on a desktop, something like the AC1200 MU-MIMO USB 3.0 Adapter would be a better option.
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@panhead

ROOter Project - was created to allow the use of USB Cellular modems in routers that don't have this capability using factory firmware....ROOter came into being in 2013 because of a simple question asked on the Whirlpool Australia forum : "Can I plug my modem into my router and provide Internet for my entire network? And can I see signal information so I can adjust my antenna for better speeds?". The answer from ROOter was "YES".

Routers Supported by ROOter - The following is a list of the routers that currently have a ROOter firmware.

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@6620L

Another software update, just now
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@6620L

After update, unit was dead...so I removed its battery, waited one minute, and reinstalled...everything OK.

Ver 4.5 installed
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the unofficial Verizon wireless jetpack thread. Courtesy of Viasat.
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Looks that way.  :)  
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Yep. Surprised it hasn't been locked.
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Steve Frederick-VS1/Beam314, Champion

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I too have had about enough of this Verizon Jetpak stuff on this forum. Time to move your jetpak comments to a Verizon forum.

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