Thrilled with new plan

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I've been chafing under the restrictions of my current internet service(s).

These consist of the Exede 50 Liberty plan (~$120/month including fees, etc.) + a T-Mobile hotspot that gives maybe 3 mbps or so but has a 75 GB/month limit (another $125/month).

This is still a lot better than anything I've had in the past, because I live in the country where there is no land service.

So I decided to check whether there is anything better on the Exede side, and there was the silver plan for $150 with a 150 GB soft limit!

Of course there will be fees, etc., so it will be closer to $180, but that's still $65 less per month for more data, and my speeds have been in the 8 mbps range most of the time on the satellite.

So of course I signed up while it was still there.

Hopefully they will have something even better and cheaper when the new satellite is operational, but this is still a big improvement.

Happy camper here!
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steve heller

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Posted 11 months ago

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Dave Eicher

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Glad I am retired and do not need that much data. This is still way to expensive for me.
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Options, Options, it's so nice to have options.  As I mentioned in an earlier post/response we decided (me actually) to add an additional ISP to our mix ,Hughesnet GEN5, since our children eat up our data on our Viasat Liberty 18 plan, within the first two weeks,  Sometimes faster than that.  They have CHROMEBOOKS which are heavily used in their shcool and of course used to do and turn in homework.  I was constantly trying to monitor their useage and worrying about being able to support our small (really small) business.  We have two Long Arm Quilting Machines which are contolled by PC/Windows software.  The software originally had a deal w/Microsoft for long term support withe Windows XP.  The software vendor recomendation was to NOT conect the PC to the internet.  The most recent release changes all that with cloud storage, online store for buying new patterns, sharing pattern tags, ...
I have this new software running on one of our machines but have yet to connect it to the internet.  I have heard that there is a software update and can be downloaded as an update.  I'm also worried about windows update.  They have a special version of Windows 8.1 (& Windows 10) called "Industiral" which doesn't come with "Cortana" and alot of the other "Junk" that we don't need.  These machines will eventually be using the GEN5 system.  I currently have two "All-in-Ones" connected to GEN5 as well.  We are fortunate enough that our "small business" is making enough $ so that I can justify this second ISP.  It's not perfect - I've had some minor issues with some Web sites URL "not found" and then later on they work fine?  My biggest worry is that these Widnows Updates some times FAIL (on our All-in-Ones) and I have to FIGHT to get the machine back to a useable condition.  Reverting back to a prior version is what happens - only to be presented with an UPDATE a few days later that may or may not complete successfully.  This was also happening when they were on the Viast1 ISP.  I really think this is a MICROSOFT problem.  It could be further complicated by latency issues and some what I think is priority downgrading by our ISP as the downloading of these updates happen????
In the meantime we will continue to be a customer of Viasat1 and patiently wait to see what Viast2 brings forth in regards to data plans, ...
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ViaSat2 will more than triple ViaSat's throughput in space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ViaSat-2   If ViaSat has been able to grow Exede's plans this much with ViaSat1 alone, please consider how much better they will be able to do with ViaSat2.  Also, please consider that it has been barely a year since Exede has had the Liberty Pass and now Exede has unlimited plans.  Then, there is ViaSat3 coming a few years from now and that will again more than triple the throughput from ViaSat1 and ViaSat2 combined.
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If they’d launch low orbit satellites like spacex was looking to do, latency would be a nonissue and satellite internet would overtake ground based services.
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Low orbit satellites are much harder (i.e. much more expensive) to manage than geostationary ones: https://community.exede.com/exede/topics/will-exede-viasat-ever-launch-into-low-orbit    Advancing technology could change that, but that hasn't happened so far.

SpaceX is actually operating at a rather large loss whereas ViaSat is treading water with a very slight profit.  Over the long term, which company do you think will survive?

Regarding latency, having a well managed core node on the other end of your satellite link, which is the case for Exede, very much cancels out the problem.  I suspect that Exede simply having true unlimited plans will make it a viable competitor to ground based services.
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While Exede has lowered latency, it's still a no go for gaming, and the delay is annoying at best with phone services, video conferencing, and such.  Add a VPN on top of it and you really get some frustrations.  SpaceX was given a lot of money to implement global low-orbit satellite networks.  They estimated a ping of around 60ms.  That would put it on par with most land services.  Whoever creates the low-orbit system first will be the long run winner.  Disclaimer- I'm pretty happy with Exede overall.  I just don't see the model being long-term viable (like 10 years or longer).  As you pointed out, technology can certainly change all of this.  
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Glad you guys are excited!! We're definitely on the road to better things!

As for the low orbit satellites I don't think our company is interested in that technology at this time but never say never! I think from here to 2020 is focused on ViaSat 2 and our ViaSat 3 plans (which will also extend our in flight WiFi options...so if any of you guys are flying you might be able to use us!) and just really put our feet on the ground with satellite residential service and making things like streaming be possible (compared to basically impossible just a few months ago)
 
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I would love to use you on airplanes.

But somehow I don't think TSA will let me take my dish through security. :-)
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IIRC, I believe the wifi service that is offered on airplanes uses Exede to access the internet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ViaSat-2
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Not all airlines, but a bunch!
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Yes not all airlines, but a number of them. Internet in the air is a Godsend on 4 - 5 hour flights. Love watching live TV on the plane. Thank you Viasat!
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Being able to stream (even at lower res) would really open up possibilities for those of us that live in the sticks. Being able to cut off Dish or DirectTV would save tons of money. Right now, even with the “unlimited “ plans, full streaming isn’t a viable option.
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I just got my modem three days after ordering it, and am now on the unlimited silver plan. Looks good so far!