Further, all of the large updates are "cumulative" in nature: the latest update replaces all of the previous ones. Therefore, you can keep the automatic updates process off, just install updates manually every so often and save a lot of data usage.
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The catalog is a great idea for those who have multiple computers, but not so much those who only have one or two.
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With my method, you would turn the Windows update process off, and download and save the update as part of your data each 6 months or so. Then, you would have control over the update, could make sure it doesn't break anything and will be available to you if you need to reinstall Windows from scratch.
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Yeah disabling Windows Update through Services is the best option and updating during Free Zone is your best bet.
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Can you confirm that setting the Windows update service startup mode to manual in services.msc and then never starting it works in Windows 10 as it does in Windows 7 and Windows XP, and that Microsoft hasn't created noise, such as Windows 10 starting the service anyways, to make that procedure not work? I have never been forced to use Windows 10 so far.
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The best thing people can do to protect against hard drive failures is to perform system images. A regular schedule for them is best. I keep one per month for the past three months.
If people have data to burn at the end of the month, then by all means, those downloads from the catalog would be a nice thing to have, but for the average user it's nothing more than wasting data.
This, of course, is just an opinion.
As for disabling Windows Update in services, yes, it works. For the average user, though, it's NOT a good idea.
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The overall impression I get here is that you are advocating blind trust in Microsoft.Downloading full versions of cumulative updates advocates no less trust than relying on Windows update. Simply connecting to the internet with a Windows based device negates any separate trust with individual actions. It's no more dangerous to connect to Microsoft's servers for an update, or to download a full version of that update, than it is to simply connect to the internet with a product using their OS.
Contrary to popular belief, the vast majority of Windows users have never had a problem, or at least a substantial problem, with or caused by an update.
The chances of a problem occurring by using a full version of a cumulative update are no less than getting the parts of the update needed through Windows update, and it's a false assumption to think that it is.
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It is just like GWalk900 said: my network, my rules, or, in this case, my computer, my rules. That's something that Microsoft refuses to recognize (e.g. "you need permission from 'Trusted Installer' to change this file on your computer": "Trusted Installer"?!, last time I checked, I owned my computer and not "Trusted Installer"; even the name "Trusted Installer" is insulting and disrespectful of you as a customer). But then again, we already knew all of this, since Microsoft has always favored its own interests and agenda over the needs of, and its required commitment to, its customers.
I also disagree with your statement of "the vast majority of Windows users have never had a problem, or at least a substantial problem, with or caused by an update." I am constantly made aware of problems that people continue to have with Windows automatic update, and not just from this forum. Further, the problem has been getting worse.
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