Suggestion during Coronavirus Shelter in Place

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During this time of Shelter in place, I think ViaSat and other internet providers should cut rates on their unlimited high speed plans. Just until the Coronavirus threat is over. Cusotmers can then stay with the unlimited plan at regular prices or go back to their original plan.
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I think if you don't live in NY or another hard hit CITY, we should get back to work. My state has 5 deaths. And they have literally shut down TULSA COUNTY and put thousands and thousands out of work! We don't all work a government job where we get a check regardless if we are working or not! This is insane! Stop believing the hysteria! Also,will all the people who qualify and do get the stimulus check, if it ever happens, volunteer to donate their check since they have never missed a paycheck??
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It would be great if there was sufficient bandwidth to cover every situation, but that is just the way things are now. It is not unlike highways. That is why we have rush hours and huge jams during hurricane evacuations.. We simply can’t afford to build enough roads or internet bandwidth to handle every possible eventuality. Would you really want to pay $500/month for internet just to have so much extra capacity that you could handle times like this with no loss in performance?
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That's just the thing.  A see a lot of "oversold" complaints, both here and on my own ISP's boards, and I kind of snicker when I see that.  There is no way they can keep the number of subscribers so low that there isn't much of a slowdown and still remain a viable company without having to charge a ludicrous monthly fee to those relatively few customers.  Even $500 is likely a conservative number.  

So, though "oversell" is a subjective term when it comes to something like this, it's impossible for them to not do so.  
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On the other hand Viasat should stop selling subscriptions on beams that get a lot of customer complaints for unusable service until things return to normal.
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I agree with you to a point.  However, even if it can't provide enough bandwidth to do much with video or even work or school, it can still keep them connected to the outside world, which is more important now than ever, so I can see them continuing to sell, even on already very packed beams.  

If anything, this pandemic has shown how much the internet is needed, and how awful it still is for rural America.  
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It has been awful in rural America for a number of years. But nothing seems to change.

When Viasat-1 came out they offered pitifully low plans at 7.5GB/month. And that was awful in 2012.

Internet usage continues to grow year after year. Satellite internet is always playing catchup and never will meet average consumer needs. The average household uses what, 300GB/month now? Just a few years ago Viasat said 150GB was "virtually unlimited"

I don't know what the answer is, but I know satellite internet isn't the answer today.
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I think every business should give us everything for free. Free good. Free gas. Why not?
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Sick of all the BS politicking going on. Like the governor of California's utter nonsense claiming over half his state's population will get sick. Cops are actually ticketing people in San Francisco for being out of their homes. Also Gavin Newsome is constantly bad mouthing the White House, while at the same time always being quick to ask for Federal aid. A lot of these politicians do not live in the real world.

As for the OP another case where I side with Viasat. You signed the contract and agreed to the pricing. They aren't laying people off so their over head didn't go down. A lot of businesses won't survive this, and you are asking one to operate at a loss for your benefit. They already temporarily lost their commercial airline business.

Wisegabby, good idea that people unaffected should donate their stimulus check. I won't get one as I am a business owner. They are offering loans, that you don't have to pay back if you use it to pay employees, but I to longer have employees. Even under a shutdown order I am considered essential, but they haven't shut down Virginia yet.

Our dear government at all levels is going to cause something worse than the recession of 2008. A lot of people won't have jobs to come back to and others will lose theirs as non essential businesses will fail due to changes in people's spending habits. Nobody young enough to work has seen anything like this, the only people that have are at least 105 years old. That would be the Spanish Flu of 1918-20. This is the first time many have been blind sided and left without a paycheck. People are going to want to build savings like never before, money spent on hobbies and entertainment outside the home will be the first things slashed to find that money to save.
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@home People SHOULD build savings, but I don’t think they will. Our collective memories are short and weak. I bet we are back to business as usual within a year. However, I hope I am wrong.

I am not a prepper, but I do stay fairly well prepared for things such as this. We always buy most things in bulk and keep a good supply on hand. We had visited Sam’s Club just a month before this broke, so we have lots of toilet paper. LOL. I also keep at least 12 months of cash in reserve and I spent yesterday setting up stock limit order purchases and sales. My one gold stock sold this morning when the price spiked.

Life is not bad if you are prepared, but I can imagine that for folks that live hand to mouth, this will be a frightening and difficult time. I do hope it serves as a wake-up call as you suggest, but history tells me it will not.
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People actually will become MORE dependent on government, which is what the Socialist want.
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Things are going to change no matter what, I guess it depends how much. I don't think there is anyone who is going to decide to save less money than before. I would be curious how much the average consumer spends over and above what is necessary for basic needs. I am not just talking personal entertainment and hobbies, but people that buy jewelry, designer clothes and shoes, etc,etc. A $250 pair of sneakers aren't anymore comfortable or durable than a $50 pair. I never understood "branding" when it didn't signify an increase in quality.

I purchase high end items frequently, but the extra money spent buys a better quality product. It is also always work related, the high end items last longer and allow me to be more productive at higher quality standards. I know I will take a hit but haven't yet because I have back orders. I am a small machine shop. I figure the firearm related stuff will always be steady, the medical or food related stuff isn't going away either.
Unfortunately that is only 40-50% of my business, the rest are hobby people.
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Ohio governor said 100,000 people in the state have the virus. That was on March 13th, we just didn't know it.


Shows the idiocracy of some of these health officials.
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Wow! And I was called selfish for wanting my internet speed back up so I could download my games at a decent speed. Some of these responses have serious implications of actually harming others. I know in my state of Louisiana we are currently next in line to have the most cases because surprise surprise most of the people here act just like some of you guys.

For the tip about saving you can hang that up around here as ain't much other than the likes of retail and fast food that was opening in my area. Wasn't much white collar work here so when the shutdown happened we lost quite a few jobs outside of fast food and retail(some). What sucks is these are the people who realistically can't be without a job because they have no savings nor do they have a decent wage because hurdur UnSkIlLeD labor. These are the things I see in MY area so it may be different in others.

If your area is not hard hit by the virus then continue practicing the guidelines because that will keep you safe and keep the spread minimal as it's suppose to do. Trying to reopen now is just asking for it to explode and be a tragedy as we don't have enough equipment nor do we have any type of treatment plan readily available. Heck we barely have test kits avaliable let alone kits that test multiple people.
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"And I was called selfish for wanting my internet speed back up so I could download my games at a decent speed"
Because you are.
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Simon, you are worse than pathetic, you are nothing but a self centered cry baby. Hopefully you will not reproduce.
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I live in Louisiana and kids being able to use the internet for school is far more important than anyone playing video games. 

Also, I wouldn't go on here crying that nothing is open in Louisiana.  I am an essential employee, involved in back end support of the supply chain.  I only leave my house for work and to do yard work outside my parent's house.  Pretty much every store I drive past has a full parking lot and every drive though has a line. 

Really, it is mind boggling how many people aren't taking this stuff seriously.  Places are open, and I don't dare go inside any of them unless it is to do my job.  I haven't been inside a store to shop in over a month.

Traffic in Louisiana is actually heavier than it was before this mess started.  I've worked in Baton Rouge, Houma, New Orleans and Monroe since this mess started and people simply are not staying home.

Anyway, this is almost the end of my rant.  If you are receiving a $1,200 stimulus payment, quit complaining about vendors not giving discounts, quit wasting it on buying yourself toys, and use it to pay your bills!  That is what the stimulus checks and unemployment are for.  You are't being subsidized so you can go buy new purses, dresses, color television sets, or video games.  Unfortunately many people are doing just that and will blame the government for not freezing their rent/mortgage should they become evicted.

I don't need the stimulus money and that isn't an excuse for me to go spend it on stupid stuff.  It will stay in the bank and should I lose my job, it will be used to help keep my bills up to date.
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I am not getting one either. While an essential worker, we are taking pay cuts.

No matter what the politicians say, the economy is going to be destroyed for years. Spend only on essential. And if you are in the travel or entertainment industry, time to find a new job. Orlando, New Orleans, and Las Vegas are going to become ghost towns (and I don't really have sympathy for any of them, especially Disney who is the worst by preying on children). At least the other two towns prey on adults!
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Terrible what has happened to the brothels in Nevada. Thousands of women are out of work.
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I'm going to be getting one, though it will be a while before I see it.  And though I'm going to be getting a couple of things online that I have very much needed for a while but haven't been able to afford, I'm going to put most of it back into our local businesses, as our little town is struggling.  
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"While an essential worker, we are taking pay cuts."
Begin another rant, ignore if you want.
Must be nice getting paid :)  Ag is a wreck.  Like I said before with beef, increased demand, packers get increased prices, everyone else is losing (so packers get more $ because they pay less even with increased demand).  Pretty much everything we sell we take a loss on, so basically the opposite of being paid.  Not the first time, years in most sectors of ag are a loss even if you do everything right with minimal expenses, and it hasn't been "great" for a very long time.

This is a pdf of a livestock market report, another state, people are a bit fed up, as can be seen in the summary at the top.  Fire last year in one of their plants, closure, prices went up for them again, down for us, again.  http://www.ftpierrelivestock.com/images/MarketReports20/04-10-20_MR_FRI.pdf

And the one from the week before http://www.ftpierrelivestock.com/images/MarketReports20/04-03-20_MR_FRI.pdf

Like I said, it's being looked into, but I doubt it will go anywhere, and a lot of people are having issues in all areas of all businesses aside from ag.
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I keep hoping this might drive things back to a more local agricultural economy rather than national or international. And it this lasts too long, I expect we will see prohibition-like black markets develop for food and other essentials.
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I been working throughout this pandemic. I work at lovely Walmart
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It boggles my mind how it is unsafe for restaurants to open their dining areas for a dozen or so customers, but its completely safe for hundreds of people to be inside of Walmart at a time.

I feel for you.  Walmart certainly isn't a safe place to work these days.

People really shouldn't be allowed in any store until this is over.  Walmart could easily sell pre-boxed sets of essentials from outside the store.
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Not all doctors.

Don't make general statements like that. I know you are young and impressionable, but you will learn.

Now back to broadband internet for all. Who is up for infrastructure improvements!
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Hope it is that simple as washing your hands and not touching your face. 
The social distancing and mask wearing when close, as well.  Droplets from an infected person who coughs, sneezes or even speaks is believed by many doctors to infect, too.
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@Cat Many different doctors and scientists are saying many different things. I remember when the projection was 2.2 million American deaths and that came from scientists... Don’t believe everything you read.
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Sadly, there are people rooting for states to fail proving they are right and those states were wrong.  This cuts both ways, but for some people hoping more people get sick and die is just wrong.

But I did hear a government official talk about fixing our rural internet infrastructure tonight.  All of us with limited internet options should be rooting for that. 
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I haven’t heard anyone rooting for people to get sick and die. However, I believe many politicians and scientists are making the most of those who have been sick and/or have died to consolidate political power and gain more funding for their research.
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Just a hunch...
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I suggest all our bills be free and everyone get stimulus payments and unemployment. While we are at it, send us some food stamps too. The world owes it to us!
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The hoarding of toilet paper still makes no sense to me. If I was a hoarder, which I'm not, I can think of quite a few other things to stock up on other than toilet paper. Non perishable foods and water come to mind.
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I’ve been stockpiling food and water since 2005. I haven’t been shopping since the first week of March. Life is good.
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I don't usually stockpile much extra food, though I have gotten a little more canned and dry items than I normally would.  I do always keep water on hand, though.  I use old milk jugs and treat the filtered water with a few drops of bleach (there's a formula for doing so).  I usually have a few gallons at any given time.  
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@Admiral. That is because most Americans today are full of s%^t.
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@Gabe, that's about the extent of my "hoarding" as well. A few extra gallons of water and maybe 3-5 days worth of canned food.