Speed throttled if using P2P? (filesharing)

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I have had excede for nealy 2 months.  last night, during the freezone, I noticed speeds were locked at 8.75kb/s both up and down per connection.  Today during the metered time, same problem.  I have NOT gone over my allowance.  If I make 10 connections, each gets the same speed.  If I DL from newsgroups, (port 119),I can make up to 50 simultaneous connections with my client program and get the 12Mb/s, but still 8.75 if only using one connection.   Is P2P being throttled? 

What gives?
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Hi Craig, I would be happy to take a look at your connectivity on my end to see what the problem could be. I can also take a look at as to why you are experiencing slow speeds during the free zone. Please send me an email to  exedelistens@viasat.com with your account verification and I can get started. 
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craig me and my boyfriend were to the point that you are at. we really wanted to change internet service providers because we found out our modem was not resetting. well long story short about five days ago i finally found out why. and now our late night free zone is amazing. we download movies off on demand and i couldnt figure out why our data was all used up again. and we only get 10gb a month so not to much. but anyways during the late night free zone when we thought it was not counting as free we would download a movie or two as many as we could fit in the five hour period. or when we remembered . but it was so slow to download one hour long show it would take about an hour on a good night so anyways finally found out this is what u do and hope this works for you. at exactly ten or to be safe fifteen minutes until midnight if thats your time zone unplug your router not the modem from them but the router for instance we have a cisco but unplug just the power to that which will mean you will not have internet or at least nothing to go through to that box. meaning the modem will not connect with it at that . but your modem will reset then give it till about 10 after midnight and plug it back in and try to download something then. and it should be a whole lot different. we found out everything we downloaded was never free because it never reset. the only way it can reset on its own is if from 11:50 pm - 12:10 am nothing in your house is using the internet nothing at all so the easiest way we found to turn everything off is unplugging the power cord to our internet router . again not your modem the router . good luck 
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That is exactly why Exede needs to get off their high horse and provide us with an indication that the modem is in the LNFZ. The bug in their system is that the modem will not switch to the LNFZ unless there is absolutely no data flowing, which is an unreasonable assumption. The LNFZ should be activated no matter what the moem is seeing for throughput when the midnight hour arrives.
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Agreed Steve.

While Hanna's workaround probably doesn't impact P2P issues, it works for her and maybe some others, while we wait and wait and wait...

I personally have never experienced the issue, although my one data spike did appear to occur at entry/exit to LNFZ. My modem's on 24/7/365 with all devices simply asleep when not in use - all 4 lights solid except for the occasional pulse check during those times when asleep. Generally stays, that way during the LNFZ since I'm not usually up during the transition but I always take a peek at it on the way by -  I have always wondered what would occur if a large download started before entry and continued well past it. Does it all count toward usage or partly but who knows? Once I'm in the HOT lane do I get part of my toll back if I'm still in it when the toll period ends? At least they don't change directions until I'm out ;)   

I'd suspect normal browsing activity during the transition has little impact and there are a few milliseconds available for success but again who knows?

For P2P use it's probably being discouraged as noted below. Even then some of those "bastions of free speech", universities, block P2P entirely on their networks despite some legitimate uses out of fear of legal consequences of illegitimate uses (or at least that's how they justify it - Mizzou comes to mind).         
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Old Labs - "all 4 lights solid except for the occasional pulse check " - Interesting, my 3rd light down never stops blinking.  It has a "resting" rate of about 4 Hz.
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Yep JEP -  all devices sleeping at parade rest. Maybe router differences?

A single flash of #3 about once ever minute. And every 15 minutes a longer exchange of about a minute with #2 and #3 active which I suspect is the usage handshake.
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When at rest, my third light down flashes at a rate of about one per second, but that is because I have Exede Voice, and the Voice modem is constantly checking the big white phone in the sky to see if I have any of those scammer calls coming, or even the occasional legit call. 
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I don't find this to be the case. Mine as never failed to cycle into the LNFZ , in use or not. I do not power down my modem, router or, computers unless there is a power outage. I do not reboot except when updates or other installs require it. Most nights I am awake and, online before and continuing until after midnight.

(and just an FYI, that's been on four different computers, 3 different OS and, three different routers over the years. 3 of those 4 computers are still used in my home. One router died of old age, one got fried by my electric company because the surge/batter back up I had then did not have room for it. The third router is in use now.)
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I've never had to stop all internet traffic at midnight.  The free zone hasn't failed to stop metering yet. The speed throttling problem goes away if I use SSL connections or an encrypted proxy. This makes me think P2P is being "discouraged" since if the connection is one they can't figure out, it goes fast.  If they use high-technology to slow my connections, then I'll use better technology to confound them.  My strongest suspicion is that they don't like sustained uploads, or let's call it, internet traffic that originates from their system.
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Craig - I upload sermons for a church's website and I notice that my uploads go full speed, better than advertised, but are not continuous.  They stop cold at semi-regular intervals.  Averaging the speed over the stoppages probably results in an effective upload speed near the advertised "up to".

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