SpaceX launches 60 more internet satellites

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Competition (called StarLink) for Satellite internet gets closer to reality..

»www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/t ··· dex.html
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I wonder how much money they will spend before the system is operational and can provide residential service?
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Only 499 launches to go!  At the current rate of 2 launches per year they will be fully operational in only 250 years.  LOL.
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Nah. They plan on increasing the frequency of launches dramatically next year. These first few are really more for testing than anything else.
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Not as if Exede didn't have a lot of issues when it came online too. If was probably over a year before it became stable.
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When I hear 10,000 satellites, or even 30.000, as mentioned, the first words that come to mind are space junk.   
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When I hear 10,000 satellites, or even 30.000, as mentioned, the first words that come to mind are space junk.   
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So, if one senator stays in Washington, D.D. during Christmas break you would consider the senate to be “up and running?”  You must be in marketing!  LOL.

I would hope they could get 610 Mbps to one airplane.  That means 10 airplanes in that area would get 61 Mbps each.  Figure 100 passengers on each plane and they will get a whopping .61 Mbps each.  Yippee!
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Despite your feeble attempt at sarcasm, YES!  Especially if it is YOUR senator.  It is obviously not working at capacity, or providing 100% of its desired operations, but upon arrival of the senators it is a functional entity, as opposed to, designs, approvals, funding, ground breaking, construction, etc.  If you are restoring a car it is a milestone when it is "up and running" you turn the key, it starts, and goes down the road under its own power.  It may be years completing the detail work but it is still "up and running" regardless.

610 Mbps, at 300 MPH the entire area of coverage with no loss?  Yea that impresses me.  How do you assume 610 Mbps is the limit of the beam and not the receiver or device?  It might even be the limit of the program used for the testing.  Now lets suppose 100 people on an airplane all have laptops and all are downloading the latest version of Windows all at the same time (SMH) whats wrong with 0.61 Mbps?  Thats higher than what Viasat expected me to run on half the time and called it "high speed".  Much of the time I was below 0.5 and peak usage under restriction it was more 0.05.
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Maybe available in late 2020 to some customers.  Anyway for those that won't get a ground based ISP under the governments program to bring everybody on line this will offer another alternative.

https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-service-2020.html
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Speaking of that. The government's expectation is a minimum of 25Mbps down and 3 up. That would be the average of course. Viasat cant deliver that nationwide today. More pressure is coming down if you cant deliver that, no grant money will be coming, and Viasat likes its grant money (what business wouldn't).
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Agreed. That is why if anything is working and in place by the end of 2021 I will be surprised.
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Full service in the US by 2021? Probably not. But it wouldn't surprise me if limited service does begin later this year or in early 2021.
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I said anything. So any residential customers by the end of 2021 is what I meant.

Gateways? Installers? Hardware? Sales? Support? Doesn't happen overnight.

Viasat helps fuel my pessimism. For how long have they over promised and under delivered?
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Never underestimate Elon Musk. SpaceX designs their own satellites. SpaceX makes their own satellites. SpaceX has their own rockets. SpaceX puts their satellite in orbit themselves. SpaceX recovers their rocket after each launch.
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And Elon has consistently missed his own target dates. I don’t doubt that LEO is a possibility and I think Starlink has the best culture and potential to be successful, but I think the dates are overly optimistic.
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Is it the weekend?
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It's Friday!
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Close enough!
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@Ron You seem to think that every satellite orbits past your house.  That ain’t so.  The density of satellites in a constellation does not have to be uniform as with GPS.  It can be very dense in some locations and barely enough to see two at a time in other locations.  So, the revenue per square mile of earth surface is not uniform just as it is not uniform with land based systems.
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If LEO satellites of which I know nothing about orbit at a speed different than the Earths rotation & there are going to be 10's of 1,000's of them out there what keeps them from being a traffic hazard to manned space travel?
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I wonder if political pressure may become the biggest obstacle at some point.

 https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/10384295/elon-musk-spacex-starlink-block-view-stars/
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This has been discussed before. I believe the demand for better internet to the under served masses will supersede political obstacles.
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Dont count on it. People protest about anything, including wind power because it obstructs a view and/or kills birds.
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Supposedly they have a plan to deal with all the extra satellites in space. Last I read though is that nearly a third of all the satellites currently in space are "dead" and basically floating junk.
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We already saw what's coming. Gravity!
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That's why I didn't marry her!