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Michael McDowell

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James Billinger

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This could put both out of business if goes as plan
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Michael McDowell

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I doubt that it will put them out of business but it may force them to offer better plans, especially it it relieves some of the demand from heavy users that need lower latency.  I just hope it doesn't affect plans to build the Viasat3 satellites.
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I can see it now, Space X internet coming early 2019...  I'm sure their forum will have just as many nut jobs demanding updates as this one does.
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Stephen, you got that right.  This is getting really stupid.  They badger the moderators for weeks and months "is it here yet" and when it comes they dump on them because it isn't Fiber internet.  We even have one Yahoo who is going to sell his house because he didn't like what was offered on the new plans.   Viasat has released plans that are historic in scope and now they talk about the company being put out of business.  All you people who hounded the moderators (and you know who you are) need to get up off the floor, change your diapers and apologies to them for acting like spoiled 2 year old brats.  ( Now that my friends is a proper rant)
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Very well put, Jim16. 
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If I’m the nut job your referring to, then I suggest you lay off the name calling. Secondly if you consider the direct promises being broken by a company after more then five years of flogging a service that still doesn’t work being a nut job then I can’t imagine that you stand up for yourself very often. All these comments about diapers and demands and nut jobs are ridiculous. This company has misled the general public and investors for years on end. These are legitimate concerns. Unlike the silly postings I see about eating cake and other irrelevant unrelated issues to viasat. If you don’t like my posts don’t read them. They will not stop, until this company meets the commitments that they themselves said they would achieve. And that does not include any unrealistic nut job expectations about pricing or data allocations. I’ve been using satellite internet since DirecPC and I am certain I am only one of a few here who can say that.
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Good to see more competition for Hughes and Viasat. Hopefully it will help customers get better plans and prices.
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I think this may push Viastat to get into the low orbital satellite business. 
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Stephen Rice

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It isn't going to push Viasat to get into the low orbit business.  Viasat already has a plan to be a global internet provider using a proven technology.  

Unfortunately what I see happening, is an evil company such as AT&T buying Viasat down the road.  Remember Space Odyssey 2001?  It was AT&T that made it possible for a man on the moon to talk to his daughter on earth.
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This sounds promising.
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TheCatWillStrike

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What's the capacity per satellite though?
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They're launching another satellite this Sunday.

The main payload for the launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California will be the Spanish government's Paz satellite, designed to capture imagery of the Earth down to the single-meter scale. But there had been unconfirmed reports for several weeks now from space industry sources like NASASpaceFlight.com that a secondary passenger on the flight would be the Starlink demonstration setup.

SpaceX itself has been relatively mum about the debut of its Starlink satellites, and about the entire program itself. However, a letter from SpaceX to the Federal Communications Commission, posted to the FCC website Monday, makes it pretty clear what will be aboard the Falcon 9 when it launches.

The letter refers to two satellites, called Microsat-2a and Microsat-2b, that will be launched as a secondary payload on the Paz mission. The FCC granted SpaceX a license in November to launch this pair of satellites as part of a test mission. In its application, the company describes the test objectives:

"In addition to proving out the development of the satellite bus and related subsystems, the test program for the Microsat-2a and -2b spacecraft will also validate the design of a phased array broadband antenna communications platform."

Putting that all together: SpaceX is testing internet broadband satellites that will be launched along with the Paz satellite.

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You are absolutely correct.

"The launch is now scheduled for 9:16 a.m. Eastern Sunday from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The vehicle's primary payload is Paz, a Spanish radar-imaging satellite. The rocket will also carry the first two demonstration satellites for SpaceX's planned broadband satellite constellation. [Spaceflight Now]
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Well, it's all making sense now why the Tesla Roadster was chosen as the first Falcon Heavy payload. With 4000+ of these things and all of the space junk in orbit up there (not to mention George Clooney), they'll need the Roadster's maneuverbilty to avoid catastrophe. It also explains the new job postings for 4000+ Starman positions... just for good measure I'll include one of these ;)

But yeah the more the merrier when it comes to increased competition, faster please... put Viasat out of business? Nah, it's so much more than satellite internet services (and that's one of the reasons for the rebrand - actually I'm beginning to question whether they even want to be in the consumer market with all the heat they take here). 
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Competition is good. I wished that I had the money to invest. Build it and they will come.
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SpaceX launches demo satellites for its high-speed internet project..

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/22/technology/future/spacex-satellite-launch-february/index.html
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SpaceX Now Needs A License To Stream Earth From Orbit. Is Tesla's Starman To Blame?

http://start.att.net/news/read/category/finance%20/article/fortune-spacex_now_needs_a_license_to_str...
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LEO constellations and fixed wireless using either LTE or 5G will tremendously damage viasat in the residential market. The double digit latency and low prices will outperform viasat across the board. There are 3 separate companies launching LEO constellations within less then 5 years and AT&T and Verizon are going to start aggressively marketing fixed LTE & 5G for Home internet service. Investment firms have warned harshly against viasats future viability. One day I assume viasat will be used primarily for government and backup only.
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Viasat Will Go down the path of C-Band Remeber those monster dishes. Directv and Dish Network crushed them in a short period of time.
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5G will NOT be an alternative to us in the country, no way.

"This new technology doesn’t rely on large cells that stretch for miles and use the towers we’ve grown accustomed to. Rather, it uses microcells, which involve lots and lots of smaller antennae and other devices strewn about neighborhoods.

 

A typical microcell would be served by a small box, or in some cases multiple boxes, hung on existing telephone poles, street lights or buildings. Often, these small boxes would be accompanied by a much larger power box on the ground. These boxes would be situated roughly every 500 feet.

The idea that companies such as AT&T and Verizon would install boxes every 500 feet has gotten the attention of local governments. They represent homeowners and business owners with very strong views about the appearance of their properties."

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That qualifier—"some non-line-of-sight conditions"—suggests that AT&T has been able to overcome the physical limitations of millimeter wave spectrum in only limited circumstances. AT&T didn't say what circumstances produced the positive result—we've asked the company for more details and will update this post if we get answers
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It's the same thing as, "speeds up to 25 mbps".
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Again, if you are really in the country, 5G will never be available.
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Ronald Stricklin

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Last I checked Hughes has invested in one web another future competitor. Here's to the bankruptcy of at least one of these companies.
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AT&T and other carriers plan to use 5G for smartphones connecting directly to mobile networks and for fixed wireless connections in areas that lack fiber-to-the-premises or cable.
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Verizon is the only company that has good service in my area, i say, Bring it on.
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