Should I switch to Viasat ll?

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I have the opportunity to switch from Liberty 25 plan on beam 339 to the new Viasat II satellite and get 40 GB for less money than I now spend..My service now has been great and I am hesitant to switch but I'm told the new satellite would be faster during peak traffic times..I would not however be able to have access to the data extender which has really reduced my consumption..Just wondering if anyone has switched and how well it is working for you..Should I switch? 
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The video resolution downgrader is already built into the "unlimited" plans. What are you waiting for? New bird for less money. Downside?
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My installer is the one that told me about Viasat ll and the 40 GB plan..  When I called Exede they told me there is no 40 GB plan for me on Viasat ll..They said that would be on Viasat l if it was in fact a 40 GB plan so already I'm getting conflicting information.. Exede told me there is no plan on Visat ll for less money than I am paying now..The lowest plan on Viasat ll is well over $100.00 after taxes and lease..So with all this conflicting info. you can see my dilemma..I just wish I could get good reliable information and know that it would work as trouble free as what I now have..   
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It has been suggested by some on this forum that one way to be sure to upgrade to Viasat-2 would be to sign up for either a 50Mbs or 100Mbs plan and then downgrade your service to a lower level. Of course this will only work IF lower tier plans ARE available on Viasaat-2.  And I don't think that has been established yet.  Anyone out there on Viasat-2  have any lower tier plans showing on your Dashboard?
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RE: "upgrade to Viasat-2 would be to sign up for either a 50Mbs or 100Mbs plan and then downgrade"

Read the fine print...before signing up.  I suspect VS-2 is for high-rollers, not "bums-r-us."  The only downgrade option may be 50Mbps plan...if you ain't got the bucks, you may shoot craps.
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Yep,... that is the question.  If you did have one of those plans and wanted to downgrade, would they just downgrade you on Viasat-2 or would they go to the expense of moving you back to Viasat-1?
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In news print, VS-2 will be mostly a commercial satellite (businesses, corporate, aircraft, government, ships).  VS-1, Anik-F2, and WB-1 for consumers.  Anyone who can afford $150-$200/month represents VIPs; most householders don't have this type of pocket change.
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The 40 GB plan is probably the Bronze pkg and that has very low video resolution for streaming.  If you can live with less video resolution, go for it!
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If you can't get on Viasat-2, I wouldn't give up Liberty for the Bronze plan.
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I agree with that!
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There is no 40GB plan. There is the Bronze Unlimited 12 that has 40GB priority on VS-1, you keep your same modem. I have it, gave up the Liberty 12/25 for it. I get more data for less money, same speeds. But I don't stream, and don't need a free zone. 
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My installer assures me I will need a new dish and new modem and I will be on Viasat 2..She said it will give me 40GB and will cost $80.00 plus tax...So something is wrong here...
 
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Old Labs keep in mind this below:

In some areas, we’ll also offer another tier of premium plans, which include speeds up to 50 and 100 Mbps.

Implicitly, this means VS-2 will have smaller bandwidth plans, most likely above 12Mbps where VS-1 does not shine, but where VS-2 shines along with VS-1, only a limited number of beams will have 50/.100Mbps service. Most likely, these 50/100Mbps beams are located in higher population areas, and/or where air traffic is most dense.
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What's your point? The same article states:

The lowest-cost ViaSat-2 standard plan includes video streaming optimized at a level best suited to small screens, like phones and tablets. The top tier standard plan streams video at HD quality and works well on big screens and all other devices. Download speeds are up to 12 Mbps for the Bronze plan, and up to 30 Mbps on the Gold plan.
That's what I've been saying all along, you're the one claiming "rank has its privilege" and that Viasat-2 will be limited to the high rollers.

  
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Jab give me a headache.  Can someone turn that robot OFF?
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RE: "...you're the one claiming "rank has its privilege" and that Viasat-2 will be limited to the high rollers."

Quite true...high rollers can buy a home where the 50/100Mbps sun shines.

Viasat Press Release - "Viasat is the first satellite internet service provider in the U.S. or globally to offer plans with 100 Mbps download speeds to consumers' homes...fastest satellite-based home internet service across the nation—with speeds up to 100 Mbps.."
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Can someone turn that robot OFF?
Apparently not and most definitely not quite true (half true maybe, but certainly not quite true).

While high rollers can buy their way onto Viasat-2 (subject to availability) by selecting a 50/100 Mbps plan, Viasat-2 is not limited to high rollers - he missed the "and limited to high rollers" part.

For that, one need look no further than the original poster who verified with his installer that he was indeed going to be placed on Viasat-2 with the lowest priced offering - Bronze 12 with "built-in" WiFi, 40 GB data usage threshold before prioritization, and detected video streaming at typically 360P for $70 per month (excluding lease and taxes).    
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I wouldn't switch.
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Yes correct I should have said 40 GB..I presently have Liberty 25 and since introduction of the data extender I'm only using about 15 GB or less.. 
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Okay I see now why it is called unlimited even though my speed will slow down if i go over 40 GB..Since the only video I watch is Facbook videos and a few You Tube videos It looks like a good deal for me but then again I ask myself is it really worth risking my relatively good service now for the promise of better service?  
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The Bronze Plan will stream at a lower res. than the Data Extender you use now. The Data Extender streams at the same speed as the Silver Plan.  480P.
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okay..so that's relevant..Thanks!    
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The lower res is pretty crappy too. 480p is DVD quality..not bad, but still standard definition and not HD.
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Yes. If he is happy now, why switch. Others have given up Liberty for "unlimited" and have not been satisfied.
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Thanks guys..Appreciate the input..
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I will say this, I was one of the very first people to sign up for Silver Unlimited.  Within 24 hours of signing up I changed my mind.  I hadn't yet received the new modem.

I called up Viasat and explained that I would like to cancel my upgrade to Silver Unlimited and keep my Liberty 12 plan.  I was expecting the answer to be NO.  To my surprise, the agent who answered was very polite and canceled my request to switch to unlimited.

As soon as the new modem arrived, I shipped it back using the prepaid return label.  I was expecting some sort of hassle where I would have to provide proof that I had returned the equipment.

No one from Viasat contacted me about the return, and I kept my Liberty 12 plan.

I was very surprised at there being ZERO hassle.

Now, I seriously doubt someone could go back to an old plan after physically installing new equipment, but in my case I was very lucky.  I didn't expect them to let me have my old plan back, and I don't expect them to ever make an exception like that again. 

The reason they probably let me keep my old plan, is because I had requested the new plan, but the new equipment had not yet been received and installed.
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How do you know which one you are on?
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If your service started before 2018, you are on Viasat 1. If you signed up this year and your modem is in the shape of a triangle, you are on Viasat 2.
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Hi Billy - I'm on beam 339 too... Switch! Maybe my connection will get faster! Joking aside, I don't see V2 available yet so I guess I don't yet have a choice.
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I was contacted by my installer and told it became available to me about 2 weeks ago...How is your service now? Will you switch if given the chance?
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I'll give it due consideration after I see the options.  Really like my plan now though, so it may be a tough sell.

My service is acceptable. I can stream through most of the FireTV apps, most of the time.

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FWIW, just because you're within the same beam foot print on Viasat-1 doesn't imply you'd be on the same beam foot print on Viasat-2 - a common zip code (or one in close proximity) might be a better indication of being in the same Viasat-2 service area (at least until the beam map for Viasat-2 leaks). Viasat-1 Beam 339 covers portions of AR, TX, LA.    
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...hadn't thought about that.
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Old Labs is correct. A completely different beam configuration.