POLE MOUNT SIZE

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What is the pole sized needed to mount the Exede Dish? Bonus question what size for Dish Network dish, also.

Local place keeps saying they need to order the poles, so frustrating, they are just poles. Going on a month now.

Doing my own post work, running solid copper rg6, grounding, bonding...just need the poles. Figured I could just swing by Home Depot and pick up a couple.

From my searching it seems that the exede post needs to be at least 9 feet long and schedule 40 pipe but haven't found the size (1-1/2" 2", ???)


Thanks!

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Alex, Viasat Corporate Communications

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Installation requires a ViaSat-approved pole your installer will get for you. Must be "thick wall 9 gauge or Schedule 40." There are more specifications for how deep, how much concrete, etc. that your installer will know about. It's not a DIY job.
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From the statement by James Harman of "Local place keeps saying they need to order the poles, so frustrating, they are just poles. Going on a month now," I get the impression that the "local place" (i.e. his installer) has dropped the ball when it comes to James Harman.  Do you have any suggestions as to how to fix that?
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It's 2".  The coax you just bought will not be considered usable by the installer.
If you have a VERY long coax run, LMR-400-75 cable is superior to anything the installer shows up with and you could argue it is needed for a long cable run (over 200'), otherwise, let the installer supply the cable.
 
If you use LMR-400-75, remember to get their connectors as that cable cannot use standard F-75 types.
 
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Thanks Craig,

The local fellas, last time they installed my upgraded dish just used copper clad. No grounding and had issues, to where the cable actually "opened" somewhere, lost continuity.

It'll be a short run of 25 feet or so for the Exede and about 75 for the Dish Network cable.

I'll be using the local dealer to remount and position the dish's but everything else will be me.

2" x 10 foot schedule 40 pipe, got it!

:o)


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Scammer.
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James Harman

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Alex, Buddy,

Thanks for replying to my first post ever on this site and NOT answering my question.

ViaSat-approved, exactly, what does that mean?

"More specifications", great!, what are they?

Not asking for proprietary info here, just pole sizes. (original question)

Reading my post you would have seen that the reason I'm even signing up and posting here is because it's been so frustrating waiting almost a month for the "installer" to order/get the posts.

As for the "not a DIY job" stuff, you don't know my skill level and having a blanket response like you guys use comes across as demeaning and indifferent.

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James Harman

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Exactly David!

Just moving the Dish's off the side of the garage and putting them on poles.

:o)

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This is all pretty funny. The pole and cabling I'm using were installed many years ago for the big antenna of C Band. Hughes net and EXEDE installers both used the C band cables with the exception of a new ground wire. When they removed the C Band antenna, they bolted a cross bar to the pole to hold the EXEDE and DirecTv - the latter already there. It is a sturdy pole of about 4in sunk in concrete, but it's only head high.


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Yeah, head high was one the things the dealer said.

Put 3 feet in the ground and that leaves the dish around 6 foot off the ground.

He said it didn't matter how far off the ground the Dish Network dish was.

Silly rules and requirements.
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Not really. Dish Network is receive only. Exede transmits back to the satellite. You don't want to transmit high frequency radio waves through someone's head or body. It probably wouldn't hurt them at the power level Exede uses but it sure won't do someone any good, either.
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Good point!
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El Dorado Networks

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That's 2" OD (Outside Diameter) for Exede. 1 5/8" OD for dish. 
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Awesome!


Thanks, El Dorado Networks!!

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Hello James,  We do not recommend you move the dish yourself. That violates the warranty.  Please call a schedule a technician to move it.  There is more involved such as repointing and peaking the dish.
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Update.

Don't know why Exede is so cloak and dagger about poles saying things "Exede Approved Pole" without emphasizing difference between an ' approved ' pole and a schedule 40 galvanized pipe.

I would of had to order a 2" x 10' galvanized pipe anyway, from Home Depot, seems that size isn't very popular to keep in stock, so decided to wait out the 'authorized dealer' to get an 'authorized pole'.

Turns there is a vast difference in poles. If someone else is finding this thread I would recommend getting the Exede pole.

The Exede pole is thinner lighter than schedule 40 pipe and is a hexagon except for the top mounting area, which is round.

See pics
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Because, as they stated above, moving the dish voids your warranty.  They don't want people taking things into their own hands when it comes to their equipment.  This is why they won't tell you what you need.  
 
Unfortunately, even though you may have gotten your hands on an "Exede Approved Pole", your warranty will still be void if you perform the work yourself.  
  
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I'm not moving anything.

Just wanted the poles so I can get them set in concrete before having the local dealer move the dishes for me.
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Ah.  Good thinking.  
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Scammer
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The pole must be 9 gauge, 2" outside diameter. These poles are not as easy to find as the galvanized poles commonly used for DishNet and DTV. They can cost anywhere form $25 to $50. I recently purchased 10 for $270 (shipping included) which is as cheap as I have found them. The pole must be at least 36" in the ground (deeper if frost line requires it) and at least 5 ft above the ground. This means the pole must be 8 - 10 feet long. Longer than 10 feet could cause too much "sway" of pole. At least 15 lbs of concrete must be used. Cable from the pole must be either "flooded" burial cable or conduit must be used. The trench must be 6 inches deep and conduit sweeps must be utilized where the cable enters the ground. All cable must be Exede approved. There is a list of approved cables available but in general the center conductor must be solid copper.

If an installer allows the customer to do any of the installation, the installer will be held responsible if anything is not to specifications.
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@GabeU, GetSat accounts don't need to be hacked to post stuff like that. Anyone with access to the internet and an email address can sign up for an account on Get Satisfaction. There is no requirement to be an Exede or Wildblue subscriber.
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I understand that.  I thought, due to a preceding comment, that gibson smith had been a long time poster and had his account hacked. 

I'm well aware of the ease with which GetSat can be used for such.   
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That was my mis-direct :)
Some creep must have hacked Gibson Smith's Get Satisfaction account.
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I actually looked at his account and saw some posts, but what I didn't do is look at his inception date, which I normally do, especially when I see something odd with a post.  That's my fault.  

But, with that said, I'm sure that isn't the first, nor the last, of these types of posts.  It's the first one I've ever seen on a board like this, as it's usually relegated to email, but I'm sure it's only the beginning.  Nigeria seems to be the most often mentioned in this type of scam, at least in my experience.  

Hopefully people are well read enough to know exactly what things like that are, and won't assume that they are legit because they are on a board that's trusted.  
   
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Yes, it's odd any scammer would post an advance-fee fraud attempt on any Forum where it's sure to be flagged by anyone who knows about these scams.

Scammers prefer Email because it's a lot less work to send 10,000 Emails, knowing they'll get to at least one, clueless nim-null, reading and responding.