Ok Exede, here’s my magic data amount number

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1 TB

Before you laugh, this is the amount of data I think we should get once ViaSat 2 becomes operational. 150gb feels good coming off a 12gb plan, but realistically, it’s not enough to cut the cord and enjoy the internet like our terrestrial ISP counterparts.

No more second class citizen feel living out in the sticks. Let’s get this done.
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And can I have Scarlett Johansson come and install the new modem?  ( Hay, might as well dream big!)
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Dreaded double post gremlins again!
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And can I have Scarlett Johansson come and install the new modem?  ( Hay, might as well dream big!)

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" May I adjust your Tria sir?"
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She’s busy with mine :).
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That'd be amazing, but I highly doubt it, I imagine since Viasat-2 has a little bit over double the throughput as Viasat-1, that we'd be realistically looking at 300GB plans, maybe a little bit more. If I'm wrong then hey, that'd be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath since they will probably do like they did with ViaSat-1 and try to keep as much bandwidth as possible, so they can pack on as many subscribers as possible until Viasat-3 comes along.  Which, as a business move i understand, so i imagine the highest plan ($150 a month) might be 300-500GB, but I don't see it going over 500GB.
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I think that’s exactly what will happen. Next Oneweb or Spacex will offer satellite internet with a 60ms ping and more data for less money. Then where will Exede be?
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I think things are going to be VERY interesting in the coming years of satellite internet. On our end ViaSat 2 is going to double our ENTIRE network's bandwidth so some stuff may follow that shortly and right on the heels  in 2020 (which is pretty quick in satellite launch time as I've learned) we'll have ViaSat 3 which sounds really cool and ambitious https://www.viasat.com/products/high-capacity-satellites

That's all on our side of things. Innovation and evolution sets the bar on the internet so we'll see what happens. 
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Thanks for at least humoring me. Maybe an alliance with Direct TV? 4K streaming that doesn’t count against data used like Verizon does with the GO90 app.
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Bradley, my HOPE is for enough data that I can stream TV and DROP DirecTV!  I have been a loyal DTV customer since they first started but now I am on a fixed income and it simply disgusts me paying what I am for "marathons" of the same stinking shows  ALL DAY LONG!  If I want to watch Law and Order SVU or Pawn Stars non stop why pay DTV when I can purchase the seasons on DVD.  I want internet I can stream on so I can watch what I want to watch, when I want to watch it, and obviously quit paying DTV also.
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That would be living the dream!
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300gigs will only get you Rosie O'Donnell, so I'll pass.
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Bradley - I'm with you 100%! I hope they can make that happen. Realistically, I would like to see Viasat make 1080p available. 720p should also be available for those who want a discount plan, but if you want to have a satisfactory streaming user experience on a modern HDTV, you need 1080p.

If the plans and pricing which we are now seeing on ViaSat-1 are representative of what we can expect to see on ViaSat-2, that will be very disappointing indeed. 

As for pricing, the premium plans currently are at $150 (although to argue that any plan that "optimizes" video to 480p is "premium" is sort of absurd). This is too high. I considered my Freedom plan to be THE premium plan and at $110, it was a fair price point - still too high, but I do not feel like I am being robbed at gunpoint by the level of service I am getting at that pricing. That's why I am sticking with Freedom instead of paying the usurious price for "unlimited".

What would be fair - and would make Viasat customers very happy would be a premium plan at ~ 100, with another close to premium plan at ~ 70 (perhaps the difference being support for 1080 vs support for 720?) - with at least one reasonably priced alternative at ~ 50. If there was ever an option offered for more than 100, then it had better be a premium PLUS offering in terms of speed, caps, etc... and still should not be higher priced than ~ 120 (bear in mind, we pay a "lease" for equipment and many of us pay for "Easy Care" - so add $16 to any package price). 

All of the above is of course, just MHO and could very well be unrealistic, given the economic realities which Viasat has to contend with. The technology is expensive, the customer base is somewhat limited - I get it.

And just one more thing (as I channel the late, great Steve) - please Viasat - stop the practice of charging different rates on different beams. Do away with the notion of "winners" and "losers" in your market. I know you can do it - and it's only fair.

Rique
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I am so sick of listening to my friends cry and complain about how much their "bundle" costs for phone, DSL and TV.  No data caps, no staying up past midnight to download files, no data and speed "throttling".  I love where I live but I hate being held hostage by satellite companies who only give me limited access to the 21st century.  I dont want to be paying 2020 prices for 90s accessibility.  The internet has evolved and providers need to meet the market demand, whether land based or not.  Its not a "luxury" anymore like TV, even the government is starting to acknowledge it as a "utility" the same as electric and phone.
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1TB? Youve lost your mind.
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If they can deliver the average usage of a household in the U.S. (I am thinking that is around 180GB/month or so but that does grow yearly), i think that is acceptable.
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I easily used 1 TB myself last month using various ISPs. I downloaded several Xbox games though. At 50-100GB each, it doesn’t take long. It also probably includes people like my parents that use 0 data each month. As 4K becomes more common (or the standard), it wouldn’t take long to tear through it. I’ve calculated I could “get by” and do anything I really wanted on 500-600GB each month.

I realize lots of people use less. To put it in perspective, I used 27GB on my phone last month.
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I really do like these types of exchanges and wishlists even if only for entertainment value.

They're eerily reminiscent of the runup to ViaSat-1 and some of the more humorous exchanges over in the older Wildblue/Exede Forum that was stood up by ViaSat on acquiring Wildblue. History does in fact repeat itself... and it's deja vu all over again. Undoubtedly some will be thrilled, some will be diappointed - we'll know soon enough.

That forum was always a good source of information and probably every known problem and workaround to satellite internet problems can be found there with it's more robust search function for self-help. Much of that info is still valid in many cases.

Unfortunately, it's days are now officially numbered:
 
WildBlue/Exede World Forum to be shut down at end of November
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Thanks for sharing. I never participated in that forum, but I’ve read a ton of threads from it over the years. I do participate in several forums, and from my experience, Exede seems to answer more questions or otherwise be more active than most other companies. That’s a good thing.
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But you do have to admit, when Viasat-1's lowest tier plan came out at a woefully low 7.5GB/month without a free zone, even at that time it was pretty sad. Even today I have a bigger data plan on my mobile device than my Exede account :).
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Absolutely, but a quick review of some of those early exchanges at the time shows that many were simply disappointed because they'd been lead to expect much more  - the result was a marketing lead led charge to 10GB and a free zone shortly after introduction ;) Many, including myself and you found how to take best advantage of that free zone.

The official responses to expectations are now much more measured in tone but they are listening and suspect the new unlimited plans are being used to gauge interest, pricing, etc.
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Exactly right Old Labs.
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As satellite customers we are concerned with our data usage.  Ask a land line customer what their usage is and 99.9% of the time they respond with  "Huh?"  My biggest peeve lately is all these new devices, programs, and apps designed for connectivity with free reign to unlimited internet.  I am finding it increasingly more difficult to schedule or stop auto updates etc on the newer stuff without being a master programming tech level 3.  It is difficult to decipher what is actually accessing the internet without using a special program or app.  The wife and I monitor OUR usage, but its very hard to monitor additional usage we dont know about.
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We Ron, the unlimited Silver plan is now available to you for $150. I am not saying you should or shouldnt, but for that price at least you won't have to count every byte :).
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I will look into that ASAP but last I knew NO unlimited plan was available here, in fact the last I knew Exede stopped taking new customers here altogether due to the overcrowding.
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Ron, unlimited is available on our beam now. At a premium price, but it is available. You get 150GB priority data then instead of a hard cap you get like Liberty type performance.
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I'm on the unlimited Silver plan myself and am nearly at that 150GB used mark, i am trying to measure my data cause I fear what the de-prioritized speeds will be like. I realize they may not be as bad as the throttling and de-prioritization like on the liberty plans, but i am gonna try and survive the last 5 days of this billing cycle just in case lol.
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All depends on the beam you are on and the time of day Marika.
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If you're on Viasat-1 and can get a 150GB plan for $150, you're not in the sticks. $150 buys me all of 30GB. Count yourself lucky
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Not sure what beam I'm on, but I live in the Hope, Arkansas zip code. Also, NewMexicoMountains, well at least here in a few months you'll be able to get similar service with ViaSat-2.  
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My feelings are that those that do have an advanced insight to the new plans for ViaSat 2, and even ViaSat 1, should not be leading people on with those hints as they are just not ethically proper.

Just my opinion, but it does cause for too much speculation.
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I get the NDA issue and even ethical considerations; however, I think life is a little simpler than most.  Why should anyone (customer wise- whatever a champion is anyhow) have knowledge that another does not (assuming that knowledge is available for public consumption?  I don't own stock in ViaSat, but I would assume it's nothing that listening in on a shareholder conference call wouldn't illuminate.  
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There you go...

All of the insight can be publically obtained or gleaned from: http://investors.viasat.com/

and all of the "leaks" I've seen so far are consistent with publicly available info.

FWIW, ViaSat would do well to abandon this Champion status (I simply discard it when granted) - I'd also suggest abandoning the Likes unless a Dislike is also provided.

Everything's made up, the likes don't matter - c'mon down let's have some fun. Speculation is part of that fun.
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One just has to connect the dots!
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If I dont like peoples answers I look into things myself.  LONG before I joined the forums I searched and searched for information on the "congestion issue".  I searched the Viasat corporate page, the investor page, several aerospace fan/trade sites, the page of the original company contracted to take Viasat2 up, the alternate company contracted, the space center the launch was made from.  Bits and pieces from everywhere to finally put together what nobody from "Exede" would tell me.  Everything is out there SOMEWHERE, but nobody says it will be easy to find.
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Do people really admit they are from Hope, Arkansas anymore :).

Not 100% sure, but you are probably on beam 332. An Exede mod can confirm.

I don't think that is a heavily utilized beam so you shouldn't be as slow in primetime as say a beam in Ohio or Virginia.
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Lol it's surprising there's other people in the general area that are also on this community site.
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