Liberty 12 Plan

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OMG!!!! I just checked and and changed my plan to Liberty 12.  I hope it doesn't go away. 
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Posted 4 years ago

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JEP

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Did this just recently become available to you?
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HMC1940

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Yes--I just went in to my account an d hit change plan and I usually get classic 10 Classic 12 etc. This time that didn't come up at all the Liberty plans came up. I clicked the Liberty plan 12 which have wanted for a long time. I can't believe it. What a surprise.
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Very interesting!  I wonder if this is an effort to move people out of the LNFZ and redistribute the capacity more evenly over 24 hours?  I had to go check my options, but still just the classic plans being offered here.
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Well, this is interesting. All we have available is Liberty plans now. We were planning to change to the 15 gig plan from the 10 gig plan tomorrow when we roll over but I guess that's out now.

Edit - I didn't scroll down far enough.  We also have the Essential 10 available. Besides the LNFZ times, what is the difference between the Classic 10 and Essential 10 plans?
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HMC1940

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JEP I never used the LNFZ. So this extra gigs helps also the fact if run out of data will just slow down but still can get on to sites. At least think can get things like my email. I just checked speed this morning and have great speed up and down. Also my health test showed high consistancy.

david they only offered the Liberty plan under my account. No other plans at all. Just all Liberty plans,
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David, the essential 10 plan is basically the same as the classic 10 just with a different free zone.
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Alex, Viasat Corporate Communications

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Yep, we have made Liberty available in a few new areas.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you :-)
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I was looking into signing up for Exede. But now that they changed my plans to Liberty I will more then likely not be signing up. I have 4 computers, 3 tablets, and several smart phones that constantly need app and system updates which use up alot of data. Most months I use a total of 25-60 GB total. I will use up 10 GB in no time and than be at the same point I am currently with slow speeds and have issues when multiple users are using internet at once.

Give customers more options to what plan they want. Liberty or Classic! Keep the LNFZ starting at 12 am or make it 2 am. 3 am is way to late! Also should extend the LNFZ an additional hour (HughesNet's Gen4 is 6 hour nightly bonus usage).

With the new Liberty plans Exede is going to lose alot of new customers over Gen4. Having the additional nightly usage is a big plus for alot especially when full speed usage limits are 10-15 GB for the entire month (24/7)
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The liberty pass eliminates the need for the free zone. Basically once you go ever you priority data you then get put on a floating priority que. If traffic is light you continue service as if nothing has changed it traffic is heavy your speeds are throttled to the 1-5mb speed to allow others the speed sense they still have classic data or liberty priority data left.
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I understand all that... But 10 GB (that's the lowest plan available for my area and definitely not paying $99.99 for 18 GB) for an entire month (24/7 usage) is extremely low. I just added my data usage up that I used this month (starting the 1st). I didn't get the the 5th and was already over 10 GB (download and upload). This is with an old HughesNet system which is only 1 - 3 mbps download and 300 - 500 kbps uplpad. Can only imagine what would get used with speeds of 10 - 15 mbps.

So on average I say I would use the entire priority data allowance before the end of the first week (if lucky a full 7 days). Then I would have 3 weeks or more with slowed speeds! I might as well just keep my slower service and have UNLIMITED nightly download. Not worth the installation charge plus additional equipment charges (I currently own my equipment and pay $69.99 per month).
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The 10 GB plan is all I could afford as well..  I am on Hughes as well and ready to switch, but at that price, I almost can get a hotpot added to my cell phone plan and not be too far off of that
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The Liberty plans sound alot worse then the Classic plans. At least with Classic you get the unlimited nightly usage from 12 - 5 am. The Liberty is only 10 GB for the entire month for max speeds. Then you get slowed to 1-5 mbps. (No extra nightly usage). Plus with the Classic plans if you go over your monthly limit you are slowed (people have said speeds are still reasonable probably 1-5 mbps) and at 12 am your speeds restore to normal (full advertised) speed. Classic plans you can watch what you do during the days and limit usage and do large downloads and updates at night. (Would be able to make the 10 GB last at least 3 weeks and if you do go over your only slowed a few days to a week - better then 3 weeks at slow speeds 24/7)

The site says 1-5 mbps but others say you still get max speed except peak hours - I don't know if id believe that. It probably is around 5 mbps max (after your first 10 GB at full advertised speeds) and slowed to 1 mbps during peak and heavy usage.
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I am doing good to get 1 on my hughes net, sounds like it would be better no matter what I can get
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John. Do you have AT&T cell service? What is your current plan?? If you have a mobile share plan and have the 10 GB plan go on your account online (or call) and upgrade plan to 15 GB. They have a promotion 15 GB is the same price as 10 GB.
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I am on 10gb plan because it was the same as the 6gb plan because I was doing the ATT Next with my phone, which I just paid off.. Like the phone I got now but its almost 2 years old and starting to get slow.. I will look into that deal with the 15 but most of the time I have only been using 3-4 gbs, just wanted to have the extra in case hughes went down (and what do you know, that paid off!!)
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It's definitely worth it. It is the same exact price as the 10 GB you won't have to pay any differences on next month bill. the 10 GB will be replaced with 15. And you keep the promotional price the entire time you have the plan activated. Not sure when the promotion ends. I found out about it tonight when I went to log in to pay my bill. I use my phone as a hotspot mor often then I use HughesNet kids always use all the daily usage so I use phone.
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I will check into that, the only thing is I have to leave my phone in my truck to get signal, and then it is on the fringe of 4G LTE signal (I am way out here in the sticks).. Looking at a cell phone booster as well.. I have a little know how on how all this stuff works thank the lord  
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Plus I have rollover data with ATT for one month as well.. My hughes is back up but it is slower than Christmas, and I have just stayed on the hotspot.. 
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Hotspot is much better then HughesNet if AT&T had unlimited data periods I would go with them and not keep HughesNet. But I need more data allowance then 10-15 GB a month.

When you upgrade your plan you will lose your current rollover usage. But the 15 GB starts when you upgrade (mine shows I have 14.5 GB remaining and my billing cycle started the 9th and had over 2 GB used this month before I upgraded). I went over my 10 GB last month due to the hughesnet outage from the 4th- 9th. So didn't lose any overage myself. You should be good though.
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Careful with AT&T  !!  They charge $15 per gigabyte for overages and just automatically sell them to you.  You'll get a text msg saying you just bought another GB for $15 and this continues as long as you keep feeding them.

A better choice is MetroPCS.  They give a few GB with their data plan on a phone for you to use while tethering to a computer.  They charge $5 per GB and you must actually log in your account to purchase additional data.  If you don't pay your speed drops to their "Network Average" but I've never seen it slow down at all when I go over and didn't pay more.  Here in San Jose the MetroPCS/T-Mobile speed is about 50 Mb/sec and it's synchronous.  I pay a flat $100 a month for 2 phones an get 8GB of tethering data included.  Data used on the phone itself is unlimited 4G-LTE.   No I don't work for MetroPCS or T-Mobile.
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The only cell service that works at my house (and inside - but mainly only at certain windows) is AT&T. I know how they automatically add data. I try not to go over my limit. The last 2 months I did go over. 2 months ago I went over 2 GB which cost $30 (the second GB was added with just a few hours remaining in billing cycle - I contacted support and they credited me $15). Last month I went over because HughesNet had a satellite outage and I was without internet for 5 days and had to use cell more then I wanted to the last 4 days of my billing cycle. (I contacted HughesNet support and they credited me 7 days due to the outage then I also mentioned about being charged overage for cell and I got an additional 7 day credit).
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How about bumping beam 369 to the top of the cue  ???     ;o)

With all the fiber competition and more than 48 ISP's in my area this beam is probably going hungry.  It rarely slows down below 25Mb/sec so how about it??
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Yea I see them offered in my area now too...going to stay where I'm at for the time being though.
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Knight Rider - So, if you can now choose a Liberty Plan, are the Classic Plans still available?
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Maybe directly from a dealer for a little while yet but directly from Exede.com no only liberty
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I got Liberty plan because I don't do LNFZ. Also from sounds of it a lot of people were having problems with LNFZ not having the speed they were suppose to have. Maybe that is why letting people have Liberty Plan. Also  I get 2 gigs more. I had 10 on the Classic plan. A lot of you that can set computers up to run at night in LNFZ probably wouldn't want the Liberty Plan.
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but if you have to upgrade to windows 10 you want the LFNZ otherwise I would go on the liberty plan and I have a lady here who needs to facetime on ipad after midnight too
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One possibility would be to wait until the last day or so of your billing cycle and do the upgrade then.
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If you don't use all you data before then. That's the best option use what you have before you lose it!

With Windows 10 I think they are going to be constantly releaseing new versions and features. They are making changes and adding new features already. They released a new preview build to insider just a few days ago. So I would imagine in a few months they will release something to everyone (either a service pack with new features for a full system download).

You also have to be careful with Windows 10 they changed how updates are downloaded. They are all automatically downloaded now. You have to have wireless connections and set them as metered and switch to unmetered when you have extra data or unlimited to download updates.
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Yeah, I was not happy about that. It would have been nice if you could schedule the download.

Another setting to watch is ensuring that you turn off the delivery of updates over the internet to other users. Microsoft is now using all of our computers to deliver updates to everyone else. If you go to' Advanced Options' under Windows Update, then 'Choose how updates are delivered', select 'PCs on my local network'.

Additionally, Windows 10 is now constantly connecting Microsft's servers and uploading data that is collected on our computers. The following two links give instructions on how to turn much of it off.

http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/windows-10-doesnt-offer-much-privacy-by-defaul...

Hope that helps,
Joshua
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Yeah. That is something else you have to change to watch usage. Having the setting might help if you have multiple computers if you can download updates once and then get the updated from your other computers.

I have a post in answers.Microsoft.com that has steps to schedule a task to automatically change your connection from metered to unmetered and back during your unlimited usage time. (I have noticed when my connection is metered it does not check for updates, I have not tested if it automatically checks after connection to changed to unmetered I normally go in and click check for updates myself).

The link to this post is below. Read Try*3's replay at the bottom of page 4 -- also there's an update to that post on page 5 (some steps are out of order). You should be able to figure everything out - this was the first time i scheduled a task with task scheduler and it was quite simple).

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...
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A lot of interesting points here! I can only say that many Liberty customers are getting 3 or 4 times the amount of data of a Classic plan. The speeds can be slower in high-peak periods but if it's data you want, it's a better plan (and you don't have to wait until 1 a.m.).
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Done !      Sign me up!       Beam 369  zip code 95135
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Sigh - Beam 329 not feeling the love.....
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Woah, how do you find out what beam number you are on? That would be a fun stat to put on my forum profile :)
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Joshua, it is a bit crude, but here is a link to the beam map http://www.northlc.com/_images/beam_priority_map.png
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That's pretty cool, thanks! It's either 305 or 306; I can't quite read the last digit on northern Michigan..
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My beam would be 321. But what isnt making sense to me is my area is pink, which shows gateway is RNO Lovelock, NV. Why is it so far away from my location?
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@Joshua I'm on beam 305. Sort of central Michigan in from the lake shore. I just checked the map Steve posted. It's 305. Didn't see any 306. :-)
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I am either 328 or 329 which is RNO Lovelock, NV, that is far from VA
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Wildcat - In the words of Hillary Clinton, "What difference does it make?"  :-)
Seriously though, I don't know.  Clear weather?  Cheaper ground rent?  Better/cheaper connection to a main trunk?  But it's why I pick west coast servers for downloads and speed tests.  A marginal advantage in speed, maybe.
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My main thing is there are other gateways closer then NV. Like Texas. But I was thinking maybe they have them closer to the satellite since I am further from it. To shorten the travel distance. I don't know. My thoughts sound logical. :-)
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Yeah, I don't think the geographic distance between the area of your beam and your gateway makes much difference since the distance between the Earth and VaiSat-2 is much greater but that's just my pure speculation.

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