Let’s Demand No Caps!

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Other providers have done this as a “public service” in this time of Covid-19. How do we best convince Viastar to follow suit?
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ExSatUser

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Not sure how much good it will do. The internet in general is failing from overload. My company cannot maintain the remote connections now
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Why do you want Viasat to get rid of data caps?  
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ExSatUser

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Brad's email indicates they are going to do something. But with the internet in general having issues, what can Viasat do.
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Charles Jacobina

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 suspending data usage limits for consumer customers during this time period due to COVID-19. Dont slow the system down its useless
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A lot of people don’t understand system capacity and that fact that data limits are in place to prevent a few users from essentially buying all the toilet paper to use an analogy that folks who don’t understand satellite bandwidth may understand. If data caps are removed, most folks are likely to get LESS bandwidth rather than more.
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Exactly right.

And once people cant get their porn, watch out!
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Yes there should be no caps. My son has to do his work online. Hows that gonna work when half the time u can't get good service or ur slowed down or capped. Smh
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If Viasat removes the data caps, no one will be able to do their work online due to congestion.  If they leave things along, at least the people who haven't used up their priority data still have a chance to function.  

Its amazing how people come here complaining how Viasat is slow yet people want to make things even worse!
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A straight, across the board cap lift would very likely cause far more problems than it would alleviate.  
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How about we demand Viasat block all non-essential internet access like Netflix, Prime, Disney+, Steam, etc. so folks can get essential things done - chances are it'd free up about 80% of Viasat's bandwidth for useful purposes.
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Blocking video streaming, now that is a good idea!  Then people who demand no data caps so they can work from home will be able to do just that!

I have a novel idea though.  Why not just leave things along and let people use what they are paying for?  
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There you go ;) Actually speeds aren't that bad - I'm below my threshold but don't expect them to stay that way should I blow through it.
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I'm not about demanding anything but not having caps would be nice while I'm off and having to work from home. That said, can someone answer this question: Why would there be a problem with no data caps? How would the bandwidth become congested when it's just fine while I'm within my limit? Am I wrong in thinking there are lots of people on sat internet at the same time that I'm still in my data sweet spot? So how would things be different if I had that data all month long? Does that mean when we run out of data it suddenly gets a lot faster for those who haven't? I want in on that! Not trying to be a wise ass but I am curious. Thanks!
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but not having caps would be nice while I'm off and having to work from home
No, it wouldn't, as you'd be lucky to have enough bandwidth to open a simple web page.  Dropping data caps would have the opposite effect of the desires of people calling for it.   
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I live in an area where they roll up the sidewalks at the threat of 1-2" of snow. Two of my local vendors where I buy business supplies have closed to walk in customers, they will ship it UPS or deliver by company truck for a minimum order. They have already closed the local schools, many churches aren't having services. I figured with the kids home and people not going to work I would get holiday congestion speeds, but I just got 8.5 Mbps download so no complaints. Maybe Red Wireless added capacity?
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As others have said, no data caps will make things worse due to congestion. There is a finite amount of bandwidth available. Most of the people I know will consume as much as possible if something is free or has a fixed price regardless of the amount used. I switched from Viasat to Red Wireless. I only have 15GB or priority data and usually only go over the least couple days of the billing period. I would probably use 3-4 times as much if I didn't have a cap, most people would go way higher than that.
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As others have said, no data caps will make things worse due to congestion.
For those of us who have been with Viasat since early in 2012, we experienced what happens if there are no data caps. That was when the data meter had serious problems, and Viasat turned of the data meter for a month or more as they fixed the problems with the meter software. Since everyone knew their data was not being metered, they used the internet freely and basically overloaded Viasat1.

The satellites have a limited bandwidth, and that cannot be changed by declaring a state of emergency.
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How do other company's do it??
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They have the system capacity to do so. 
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And they aren't limited to 2012 technology.  
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There really aren't other "companies" to compare Viasat to, their is only Hughesnet if you want to compare apples to apples. The only way the two satellite companies can add capacity is by launching more satellites. If needed, laying cable, and with wireless putting up more cell towers can be done a lot faster and cheaper. Also many of those other companies aren't even running close to the capacity they have right now, that isn't the case with the satellite companies. They are often maxing out beams and suspending acquiring new customers in many areas.
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You know I said this yesterday. Nobody is using wireless internet in the air now. That should free up additional bandwidth temporarily for consumers.

It is something.
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It is something.
Anything will help at this point.  
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I do feel sorry for college and secondary school students trying to use the satellite internet for finishing the school year.

Given the extra usage everybody has now on the internet in these times, it will only make it worse.
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I wonder how much of Viasat's capacity is used by commercial air travel?
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I spent 21 years in the army, 20 years in the state police and I've been teaching in the evening for a university for 36 years.  I remember when I flew the computer technican out to install the first 3 microcomputers the state police recieved with money from a transportation grant. The technician installed the computers and wanted to fly to the next division to install the next system.  I said aren't we going to show them some of the basics on how to use the system he said no that may happen in a month or two.  I told him I was going to give about a two hour class to the sergeant and anyone else that he wanted to attend the class.  He said knock yourself out but I don't think we can get everything done today, no problem we got bad weather anyway and probably won't be able to fly to the other locations anyway.  I gave the class and before i left they could open up the word processor, create a letter, save it and print it.  Sounds elementary, but back then it was kind of a big deal.  I did the same the next day for the other two locations.

When i started teaching systems analysis, programing, computer concepts, Microsoft Office etc., we had Trs 80's, forget the internet we didn't even have hard drives.

Anyway with the Corona Virus you know that not only colleges but now elementary thru high school children are all taking classes on line and I think this will last thru this school year, maybe longer.

There will be more of a demand for bandwidth to meet these requirements, so we will see just what the fall out will be by the ISP's.  Data caps may become more of a reality for all.

Personally, I enjoy meeting with my class in the computer lab once a week and enjoy the Socratic pedagogy approach because each evening the students don't just complete a project I know they actually understand and can apply what they've learned. We have great courses that are totally on line because of all of the resources that we employ, but i still enjoy the classroom. So my classes are considered blended; half in the lab and the other on line.  But as of now they are totally on line.

One of the fall outs of this is that not all public school children have adequate ISP support, ie satellite ISP etc. making it extremely difficult and frustrating for children that are just trying to comply with their requirements.  We are not talking about surfing the web, watching you tube etc., but completing homework, projects etc.

This will shed more light on the inadequacy of broad band nation wide and hopefully glaring point out the inadequacies of satellite internet.

Maybe it will move the government to move faster in providing real broad band service to rural and other non serviced areas.


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Hopefully this doesn't start on the run to the grocery stores and big box stores to hoard that popcorn we enjoy. I'm still trying to figure out why people need a year's supply of toilet paper in their house.
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If not then the arrival of my $1000 check will.
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The toilet paper run is the biggest mystery in the universe.

Now, if toilet paper could spread the virus, watch out!!!! Plenty for all!

Personally, I am going to use the $1,000 to install a bidet!
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Be sure to get one with a remote control - it'll provide hours of fun at your parties and family gatherings!
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Teach the dog how to drink out of it!

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