I absolutely HATE Viasat!!!!!!!!!

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I absolutely HATE Viasat!!!!!!!!!  I have the ultra extremely laughable "Unlimited 50 Gold".  Who in their right mind thinks 100G of data usage is enough?  Maybe if your an old person, and/or like live near a good cell tower, and can get clean and strong cell signal.  For real rural users, that don't have good cell signals at all, Zero to One bars, this satellite is my ONLY internet and cell phone connection.  I eat 100G in about 1 1/2 weeks.  Then my so-called UNLIMITED plan, is throttled to 0.01 to 1Mg download speed.  Un-useable.  For the ridicules high prices we all pay, there should be nothing short of 500G of data useage before we get strangled to near nothing in download speed.  I'd pay real money to have the CEO and top brass of Viasat to get what we get.  Force them, and their family to use their own system for ALL of their internet and communications.  Let's see how they like crap service.  Un-bearable cell phone calls that drop 90% of the calls, and the other 10% is so broken up that it might as well be a dropped call.  Internet that is actually slower than Dial up, ALL after we've used up the 100G of data.  Does anyone ever care at Viasat?  Heck no.  For these reasons, I absolutely HATE Viasat!!!!!!!!!
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I have to agree with you. went to my cabin this weekend, was too cold to do anything but watch movies.  Very poor quality, turns out my settings are for 480p. very grainy on my projector. And used 27gb of the 50 allowed. 

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There are ways around the 480p, you just have to be a little creative.
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The major issue is with crappy 480p video, I still used up most of my 50gb.  this does not make sense.  Some math. 4k: 7.4 GB per hour.
1080P: 1.85 GB per hour.
720P: 820MB per hour.
480P: 340MB per hour.  at 480P at 340MB per hour to use 27gb I would need to stream over 79 hours.  I was not at the cabin for 79 hours.

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480p is 700Mb per hour. You are low on your numbers.

But I agree, it shouldn't eat that much data regardless.
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It's a shame that Viasat thinks people hardly use the internet.  Maybe this limit was good in 1993, but it's ridicules in 2019.
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Why do you hate Viasat? Is there another satellite provider in your area with better internet service ?
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Why do you hate Viasat?
Because nothing runs like a Deere...
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The original poster probably hates Chef Boyardee because it doesn't taste like Olive Garden.
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It is explained above.   It is 2019, not 1993.  Viasat/HugesNet are greedy as fxxk.  Imagine if cell companies still charged by the minute like in 1990, TODAY.  That is what these satellite companies are doing STILL.  Horse Hockey.
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Actually I like Chef Boyardee.  ;)
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 Stephen Rice, I read it too.  Nowhere did I say they aren't following their contract.  You may be happy with 0.1 to 1.0 download speed after the allotted 100G of data use, but I am not.  It is crap.  It's too small of a data allowance in 2019.  Pure and simple.  Great in 1990.  Not today.
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I agree it is expensive when you compare it to the other packaged services, Verizon fios, some cable companies etc.  While data caps exist for these programs they are not enforced.  In fact they may not even list any caps any longer.  Everything is downloaded and if you had their service you wouldn't even be aware of how much data you used per month.

I ask my students how much data they use per month, they have no idea, it isn't a concern, they don't check their download or upload speeds because it is fast and the internet is just like their electricity in the house, they flip a switch and a light goes on or off.

That is how their internet works, they don't know any of the numbers Mbps etc. it is not a concern, it is just there and it works, everything on demand, in HD, cool.

But not for us, we check our speeds, monitor our data usage, develop or not patience to download or upload files etc.  We are forced to be conservative and not wasteful of how much bandwidth we consume.  And all of this comes at a significantly higher price.

I feel your pain, but that is the way it is, comparing FIOS or other cable companies to Sat is like comparing apples to oranges.

Personally, i have the 25 Mbps 150 Silver plan, and I've adapted, i have too many things going on in my life for the internet (which i teach on) to be a priority in my life.  I just manage it and truthfully with the 150 plan, I have all the data that i need, I do have Directv.

Even during the holidays with grandchildren, in laws over, staying at the house we only used 93 of the 150 G allotted.

You live in the country, you have well, if your responsible you keep on an eye on your water usage, ie, you most likely don't water your lawn, and you probably don't have the same water pressure as the city folks, well (the other one) with Sat you have to conserve/monitor your data usage.

Different technology, different costs, different performance, so all we have to do is adjust our expectations and adapt.

Seriously, a happy and healthy new year to all who have read this. :)
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I managed to blast through over 200 GB leading up to the holidays but, I put the electronic gifts online and did the updates and got the apps I knew the recipient children would want most before I gave them as gifts.

3 new tablets and 2 new phones plus keeping my stuff updated and, the guests I allowed to use my wifi leading up to and during the holidays ate data like crazy but, that's why I have the plan I have.

Fortunately my beam is good during the day, even after I use my 150 GB, same with VS2 which my step son is on just 4 1 mile from me. Even on the bronze plan, they stream during the day every day - they don't have any other TV, just streaming and, it's fine all day, only buffers during prime time.

I just wish all beams were that good. I'm hoping Viasat 3 and 4 make my service or better a reality for everyone.
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First, thanks for teaching our kids.  Everything you said is correct.  But in 2019, they are treating Satellite service like cell phone companies, and AOL treated cell service and internet back in 1990.  That model is no longer needed, or wanted.  The Sat companies could do what the hard wire internet providers do.  But they will not.  Being charged 3 times the cost, and 1/50th the speeds of what the city folk get is BS.
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"The Sat companies could do what the hard wire internet providers do."

Are you willing to pay several thousand dollars a month to get what the hard wired isp's provide.  Only one way to do that, limit the number of subscribers on the satellite so you can have unencumbered service.
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Don't mind paying for what I use. Do not agree with the inflated numbers.  In 2 days I would have had to watch nearly 60 hours of SD quality video to use the bandwith they are claiming.  Me alone at my cabin. one device hard wired to their network interface device.  There are not 60 hours in 2 days, and I slept, watched blue rays/dvds. There is no way I could have actually used the bandwidth they are reporting.  That is my beef.
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The Sat companies could do what the hard wire internet providers do.
Satellite internet is the most expensive form of internet, per capita, to provide to the general public.  Satellite internet is also considerably more restricted when it comes to throughput, and there is no simple way to upgrade it.  So, no, they can't do what the hard wired internet providers do. 

And the low speeds some people see when they are not out of data or past the optimization threshold, and partially even when they are with the latter, is because of congestion due to that restricted throughput.  Without the need to watch how much data is being used and trying to use as much as is wanted would slow the entire system to a crawl, just like having more cars driving down the road than it can handle.     

This is satellite internet during peak usage hours, and multiply this if there were no data caps or prioritization to speak of....

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First time I have seen someone complaining about VIASAT who is completely out of line, ha,ha.
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I eat 100G in about 1 1/2 weeks. 
Prioritize.  You don't have to use 100GB in 1.5 weeks.  I use less than 20GB in 31 days.  If I have a tank of gas and I know I can go about 300 miles with it I don't drive the live long day, run out of gas, and then get angry that Chevy didn't give me a 50 gallon gas tank.  I know how much gas I have and I know how far I can drive on that tank, so I don't exceed it.  

Two way satellites have a finite throughput capacity, and that throughput has to be balanced among all users.  Data caps, including soft data caps, are the way this is done.  They can't offer 500GB plans as the satellite can't support it, and to do so would cause digital traffic jams due to people not caring about how much data they used and trying to stream and stream and stream.  

Satellite internet is what it is.  Just like any other product it needs to be used within its means. 
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Well, the satellite internet is all I have for all my online needs and communications.  100%  You can all laugh at this issue all you like.  100G is not enough if it is the only game in town, and you have a family that needs it for school, and whatnot.  You can only slice that bean so thin to make it last all month before it's not worth the time to slice it anymore.

I am glad that all of you have reliable alternatives to use that can help you stretch your satellite data for an entire month, with some to spare.  Some of us do not have that luxury.
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It sounds like God's country.  My town is still a Village, and it has around 1800 people in it and the township it sits in.
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GabeU, you have kangaroos in your neighborhood?
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Very rare animal only seen after all night parties...

Image result for deer kangaroo
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GabeU, you have kangaroos in your neighborhood?
LOL.  Looks like it!  

Nah.  It's hard to see in the pic, but the deer is trying to reach a branch.  It was spring and there were buds on them

If you look closely in this bigger picture you can see them.  The buds on the branches contrast the snow on the tree trunk.  

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I've seen deer stand on their hind legs too when trying to reach a hard to get apple off a tree.
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Hate is such a strong word.  There are only two things in this world that I hate, and something as trivial as an internet connection certainly isn't one of them.
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It is.  I choose it to get their attention.  Maybe they can up the limit to 200G of date before the 0.01 to 1.0 speeds.  One can hope.
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What you have described already exists and is called a business plan. You can switch to it any time you choose.
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I will check that out.  Thank you for the idea.
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The turkey story,  I've been a runner since the mid 60's, a dozen marathons etc., so when i move out to the country, i found the running a little challenging, the road is great until a dildo in a monster 4 wheeler gets too close for comfort, so i started running on logging trails, pretty rough ruts, pot holes etc. but i only did the these trails once or twice  a week, the rest thru a battle field or on the military post .

Anyway this on hot August morning i had my German Shepard with me and because of the road puddles, ruts etc. i had to concentrate on my footing, but we were having a good run, and every once in awhile Shadow, my Shepard, would run over and lay down in one of the many small ponds  along the road, she'd cool off and catch up with me.

So again my head is down watching my footing, shadow is along side of me and then she takes off running pretty fast, i raise my head and see about 10 yards in front of shadow who is about flat out at this time, is a big turkey running and shadow isn't closing the gap.  I keep jogging and then, i know the road is washed out up ahead and full of water about 2 feet deep across the entire width.

The turkey is getting it, shadow still about 10 or 15 yards behind him and then right at the beginning of the big washed out area the turkey starts flapping his wings and like an old C47, civilian version DC 3, he lumbers off into the air, shadow is still flat out and hits that pond at about 20 mph, water flying everywhere and then she just lays there and looks back at me, The turkey is about 25 feet in the air, looking like a slow blimp, but flying, i'm almost there saying, good girl, that was one fast turkey, lets head home.

She was one beautiful Shepard (rip girl), gentle, but very protective of the family.

PS: Turkeys can run about 25 mph and then do use their speed to run and hide or to get airborne, i witnessed it that day..
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 I eat 100G in about 1 1/2 weeks. 
SHOLY KAKS!!! o.o what do ya even do with your data o.o i can watch youtube videos, download animes onto my cell phone (and uploading it to my google drive) and do gaming onto my nintendo switch and online gameplay and download games/updates ect. ect. ect. and i still have a good amount of my data from 150gbs and stuff...

if ya wanted too... why dont ya try and do my end with the verizon jetpack with $100 a month with 10gbs each month... (DONT ASK ME HOW I MANAGED TO DO WITH 10GBS PER MONTH!!! I went to the library and watched animes and youtube there also... when i gots home i used my cellphone data to watch YouTube videos ect. ect. ect. jetpack i used to download animes and surf web and chat also...)

its all about managing your data per month... 150gbs lf data is enough for me (even less than 150gbs of enough :3 ) 

i even watch 480p animes and YouTube videos also... i really dont get the difference between 480p, 720p 1080p, and even 4k... IF i wanted to... i could always buy Blu-DVDs and watch them onto my xbox one s and stuff :3 (SPEAKING OF BLU-RAY DVDS!!! I NEED TO BUY THE MY HERO ACADEMIA TWO HEROES MOVIES NEXT MONTH!!! ITS RELEASE DATE ON BLU-RAY IS NEXT MONTH!!!)