HughesNet customer wanting to become Viasat customer

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Here is what I just told HughesNet:

Looks like Excede is rolling out their new Satellite now.  Still not available in my area.  Smiley Sad

 

I'm going to keep checking.

 

150g unthrottled simply can not be beat.

 

Even their 50 gig plan beats HughesNet.  100/month vs 129.99/month.

 

If HughesNet would give me 50gigs at 100/month, I could live with that.

 

But they don't.

 

I know the arguments.  HughesNet doesn't have the capacity. HughesNet won't offer what they can't support.

 

I don't care about their problems.

 

All
I care is getting as much as I can for as little as I can.  Just like
every single other person and business out there. I am not a charity.  I am not going to take pity on a company simply because they "can't."

 

If Viasat (Excede) comes to my area, I'm gone.  Unless HughesNet wants to make me a better offer.

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Hi Lighthope

We'd be very happy to welcome you on-board and will be available throughout the entire USA. We are expecting the ViaSat-2 plans to come out sometime this month. Please keep checking with us and this forum for any official announcements and release dates. 
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Brad you mean early this month. I keep seeing early Feb release
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Lighthope. There is nothing Hughesnet can do to compete with Viasat once the second satellite comes online. Just wait until the new plans hit and make the moves.
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HughesNet recently launched another satellite, Gen 5, which is what opened up some new plans.  But those plans pale compared to what VisSat is offering.

ASSUMING that they reasonably deliver the speeds advertised.  I will be checking into those very carefully.  I know satellite always has issues.  HughesNet has been pretty good, but I am in a very rural area and don't have much overcrowding issues.  I suspect ViaSat will be the same.  I had them many years ago as GotSky and had no problems with that.
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I use to have Hughesnet. There is no comparison. Viasat is superior in many areas. Most of the negative reviews you read are from people that have no concept of satellite internet's limitations.

Incidently, Hughesnet's "latest" satellite is nothing special. It is based on technology several years old. More of the same. Viasat's new satellite is built on new technology that is current, not dated. Do you want a new IPhone, or a model from six years ago. I think you know the answer to that.
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buddy i have been a customer for excede for 7 yrs new people have bought it and you will be missing data and over charged,and speeds will be crap just WARNING YOU!!!! better do your research a bit better this company has become a scam horribly...
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Good to hear both sides.

I know HughesNet has a lot of people saying the same thing.  Interestingly, it seems their community forum is a lot more bitter toward the company than ViaSat's fourm.  Of course, that is anecdotal.  It may or may not be true.
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"150g unthrottled simply can not be beat."

Lighthope,
Everything at 150 gigs has a VIDEO throttle. 320p or 720p or 1080p.  Make sure you understand that.  At least on the existing plans now.
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Well, I know the double-post isn't my mouse click going nuts.. This is a new mouse and I just got ANOTHER double-post.  It's like I'm being haunted, much like the hamburgers that show up on the right side sometimes.    ;o(
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I'm pretty sure your double post problem is due to the extra balderdash, baloney, bilge, bunk, claptrap, crap,hogwash, rubbish etc that has been posted recently regarding plans that have not been announced yet. :-)
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Just out on a modern-day fish'n trip...   :o)
 
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Those plan prices look okay to me.  I don't stream video, so I don't care about throughput as much as I care about data.  So bring it on!
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Not official? More of that pesky fake news? If it looks official, and,seems official, isn't it official?
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These speeds are a joke anyway... I have the bronze plan now, Unlimited at 12mbps.... 12mbps, what a joke!!! I never see 12mbps, last night at 6:20 PM I was getting a DL speed of 0.56mbps and upload at 0.84 mbps, ten minutes later I was getting a speed of 0.33mbps DL and UL of 0.64mbps... those are Dial-UP speeds. And I pay $70.00 a month, what a joke!!
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Yes, but does your community forum double post like our's?  :)
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Yes, but does your community forum double post like our's?  :)
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Not since they ditched GetSatisfaction!

Where GabeU is an Associate Brofessor... I think he's trying to steal our new Platinum 120 plan.
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So much for my covert plan.  :)  
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Hughesnet ditched GetSatisfaction???? That might reason enough for me to switch!
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Hi Lighthope - If your choice is between Hughesnet and Viasat, then in my opinion Viasat is the best choice, hands down. If you read the various review sites and forums, both providers get equal treatment as far as disappointing speeds, overpromised performance, etc. 

One of the main problems is that customers get satellite service expecting DSL and cable performance.  Right now, this is simply not possible.  Of course, until the laws of physics are repealed, ping times and lightning fast responses (e.g. those required for some online games) are never going to match those that you can get with terrestrial service. 

But, with the oft-promised performance gains that we will (hopefully) receive with the advent of Viasat 2, the Viasat service will rival that of DSL and be more than enough to stream HD video--and leave Hughesnet service in the dust--without the constant worry of hitting the ceiling of download limits and minus the frustration of congestion during primetime use.

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And that is the problem, people sign up, agree to contracts, and don't even read them.  Then they come here to complain.

Most of the complaints people make on here are simply because they didn't take the time to read the terms of what they were signing up for.

My favorite is the people who come here and complain about their speeds slowing down after using 150 GB on the unlimited plans.  Its disclosed in plain english on every advertisement.
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Another favorite of mine is the people who come here and think "Up to 25 mbps" means they will get at least 25 mbps all of the time.
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Well, remember that just because someone inserts an "up to" phrase does not give them carte blanche to have any speed they want.  Technically, 0 mpbs is "up to".

There is a "reasonableness" test applied to any contract.  As I posted in another reply, 18 mbps is okay, 5 mbps is not.

Currently, I am getting terrible evening service with HughesNet with ping times of 2K.  Someone who doesn't understand the law may say that the contract allows for it.  It doesn't.

Anyway, I think I've diverted on off on a tangent here.

Two satellites, one modern, should not have that problem. And with ViaSat working on putting #3 up, this isn't going to be an issue at all.

Wonder how things are going to shake out when the LEO satellites start going up.......
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Hughesnet had a trial period at one time, not sure if they still do. Viasat has never had a trial period.

All I can say is I have had both, and no regrets moving to Wildblue/Exede/Viasat. I am fairly confident Viasat can exceed the low bar Hughesnet sets. In other words, if you are satisfied with Hughesnet, there is no reason you won't be as or more satisfied with Viasat.
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HughesNet did away with their trial period a few years back.  
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"As I posted in another reply, 18 mbps is okay, 5 mbps is not."

Lighthope,

If you are serious about this statement you made, then you are going to be another customer who doesn't understand satellite internet limitations and we will see you back here posting that Viasat sucks, just as you are saying Hughesnet sucks. 
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Yes, a pipe is so big. Yes, during high traffic speeds will slow down.

What I am saying is that there is a difference between reasonable and unreasonable. And a 73% speed loss falls under the latter category by most anyone's standard. While I write this, I am currently on the phone to Hughesnet because of evening congestion that has brought my speed down to 1.4 down/0.4 up. Would you call that reasonable or unreasonable? Fortuately, HughesNet calls that unreasonable. So would ViaSat. Yes, there will be differences in speed depending on congestion. But there should only be so much before it comes a problem that needs attending to.
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Sounds like Hughesnet is the better company.  I'd stick with them.
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It's funny hearing people say 5 mbps is not okay.  I have 1.23 TB of video on my Playon/Plex server thanks to a "up to" 5 mbps connection on a Liberty 12 plan during the day.

I'd never download that much data on a Hughesnet connection over the course of 4 months and their little 50 GB late night zone.
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I understand the limitations of satellite internet and deal with and accordingly. You can't be using percents as speed loss. Would you prefer they capped you at 3Mbps and then you drop to 1.5Mbps during Primetime? Didn't think so.
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Lighthope, you most definitely need to stick with Hughesnet. There is no sense for you to change to another satellite only to be just as disappointed.  You need to dial back your expectations of satellite internet.
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Having to choose between HughesNet and ViaSat is like being robbed, and the robber gives you a choice of giving up your smartphone or credit cards: either way you lose.  Satellite internet is ONLY for people who can't get cable internet or Verizon Fios.  For me, the only choice is between HN and VS.  I flipped a coin a few years ago and went with VS.  Its been excuse after excuse and talk of imaginary new satellites that will allow us to watch Netlix.  Right now I can barely watch a tiny YouTube screen on their lowest quality setting.  Forget OnDemand from DirecTV, not going to happen.  Not tonight, not when this imaginary #2 and #3 alleged satellites go "live."  Until you and I move into an area where there's REAL internet service, we're stuck.  Stick with HughesNet, I can guarantee you its not any worse than the crap I have with ViaSat. 
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Some of my neighbors have HN. They are so impressed by the speeds, and my 150 GB data cap that I have with VS. Some beams are currently congested, that will change in the next few weeks. For me, I am fortunate enough to be in a not so congested beam, and I watch Netflix and hulu regularly, even during prime time, without buffering.
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I hope you are correct. What you are describing is exactly what I was looking for when I was searching for internet service.
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You wouldn't want On Demand from DirecTV, anyway, at least not with a capped service, as their receivers will use your data for things other than On Demand, with no way to control it.  You'd go online one night to find your data exhausted because your DirecTV receiver used it all.  
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I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Satellite internet should be looked at as a "last resort" for internet. But for those of us with limited internet option, you make do with what you can. I have had both services. In the end I have been more satisfied with Viasat overall. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than Hughesnet? For me it has been.

You also have to temper your expectations. Directv on demand with satellite internet???? I wouldn't even think of trying that, nor would I recommend it. But things are improving. I would have never been able to watch Netflix on satellite internet a few years ago. Now I can. That's progress!
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I don't know how you are streaming that content. As slow as my viasat is I can't stream a dang thing without buffering and digitizing the picture.  The quality isn't even standard definition, let alone HD... I have smart TVs in every room and it's just a waste.  At my old house I could get cable internet at 100 Mbps and I could easily stream 4K content... I would just like to be able to watch my Amazon Video and see The Grand Tour. That is a no go with this viasat internet setup. :-(
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I've been able to reliably watch Netflix with Viasat. I let Youtube and other Internet videos buffer until I can watch them. With Hulu it is hit or miss--I can sometimes watch it using Playon, sometimes not. With my favorite shows, I use Playon to record shows then watch them later. General Internet browsing usually works fine.

What I am getting at is that you have to learn how to make satellite Internet work for you.  Few, if any, are on Viasat  out of choice.  As mentioned time and time again, Satnet is the Internet of last resort. 

We will all soon see if Viasat 2's promise comes to fruition. And even if it does, some will still be dissatisfied because it doesn't match their definition of a satisfactory Internet experience or doesn't measure up to what they have had in the past. 

My feeling is, however, is that it will get better.


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It depends on what beam you are on. I regularly stream Netflix and hulu in 1080P without buffering, even in prime time. The congestion should be a thing of the past within a few weeks as VS2 goes live.
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Well I am on one of if not the most congested beam of Viasat-1. If I can stream content, anybody should. If they can't, then perhaps there is,an issue with in installation or hardware.
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Or an issue with their streaming device, computer, settings on their streaming service....
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I was with HughesNet several years and service was terrible. It was constantly down with poor customer service.  Switched to Wildblue..Exceed now Via Sat a few years ago.  There have been issues at times, but for the most part it is great.  Sure I would rather have Spectrum at 100mbs/unlimited that is available less than a mile away, but not an option where we live.  

I switched to Freedom 150g/boost 25 several months ago and love the service.  We watch a lot of HD Netflix, DTV Now with little to no buffering. We have never went over the 150gb. The Freedom plan  does give me the choice to turn off the data extender.  I have turned it off because video does buffer too much.  Hopefully when Viasat 2 is live they will offer more options with he Freedom plan for those stuck with the Bronze and Silver plans. 

I am apparently lucky to be on a beam that is not oversold from reading some of the wild post on this forum.  

I would wait a while longer for them to start moving people to VSAT 2 before making a decision to move to/from Hughesnet.  Hopefully you will see service similar to what I am getting now.  I am averaging around 17 down and 4 up.  Ping is around 650 which does not bother me since I do not game.  

I often read this forum but have never posted due to be being happy with my service, but thought I would share a positive note.  I am very happy compared to a year ago when I was paying $140/month for 25gb, and having to get up in the middle of night to do large downloads. 


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I have the Freedom Plan now too. IMHO for users of under 150GB/month, it is the best plan to have. Too bad it us being phased out.
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I think you are the rare exception where freedom was offered on a relatively congested beam. It was never offered here. Most people on beams that offered freedom have good speeds and little congestion.

When I see freedom plan speeds posted, I usually think about taking a pic of the lonely, rarely traveled road that passes by my house. Then I could say look, there isn’t a traffic problem. I’m happy with my two lane road. Who could ever need four or even six lanes.

Anyhow I’m up above 1Mbps now. Must have been a porn server crash or people finally went to bed.
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So my internet has been really bad in the evening.  This is the most recent, and last, post I made to HughesNet on their forum.  Thought you might like to read it.

Here is the results page
 
https://testmy.net/db/CiQwYf9zB.faYHjhnk8
 
Download :: 1.4 Mbps   Upload :: 42 kbps 5 kB/s
 
I called HughesNet last night.  Was told they messed up when they submitted to Advanced Support.  They gave me a new case number (109393991) and told me I had to go to the back of the line.
 
Now remember, a few months ago I had to deal with a dish misalignment and they kept sending installers out who no-showed.  Each time, I had to go to the back of the line again.
 
And here we are, again failed tech support and back of the line.
 
So @Liz and@Amanda, we're done.  You've completely lost me as a customer.
 
Fix it or don't. I don't care.
 
I'm not going to burn any bridges, because who knows what the future hold.
 
But for now, I'm just done.  No more consideration, no more pondering what is better. When the other company comes to my area, I am gone.  I don't even care if they offer a better package, I am just done with HughesNet.
 
Hopefully you'll still attempt to fix the issue, and I will continue to be courteous and supply you with whatever you need to resolve the problem.
 
But we're done.
So, ViaSat, I stand ready to be your customer. Just start service in my area!
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Welcome aboard. Don’t be surprised if installers are backlogged immediately for a while though. I’d say it will all settle in a month or so of new plans being released.
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I TO WANNA SAY WELCOME ABOARD WITH VIASAT!!! <3 but yeah as bradley said just be execpting backlogged cause once when VIASAT DOES go live... there are gonna be ALOTTA I MEAN ALOTTA people wanting to switch and stuff. so therefore... you gonna have to wait if yall can understand that :3 BUT ANYHOO!!! WELCOME TO THIS FORUM OF WHERE YOU WILL NEED HELP IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG!!! :3 and viasat WILL help you out they did for me anyways :3
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Thank you. It's all up to ViaSat now.  Just waiting for them to open up in my area.

The very moment it happens, I will be on the phone ordering it.
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I'm constantly being throttled before my 150gb.
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You are not being throttled, you are just experiencing the effects of too many people using the network in your beam. It is called congestion. Within the next few weeks, as VS2 goes live with residential customers, you should see some relief on the congestion, as some subscribers on VS1 move to VS2.