Happy Valentine's Day

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Enough negativity here. lets all share the love and have a...
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Brad, Viasat Employee

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It's my dog's birthday so that gets celebrated
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GabeU, Champion

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I want some of those little hearts with the sayings on them that we were all forced to give to the other kids, including the nose picker, when we were in elementary school.  
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Frederick Gralenski

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I wish I had the same email format I had in January.  What Viasat foisted on me is TERRIBLE!!
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You don't have to use the email provided by Viasat. Most of us use Gmail or Yahoo mail, the Viasat email has too many problems to be considered a reliable service.
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Brad, Viasat Employee

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We don't offer it anymore. I would recommend Gmail personally because that's what we used to have before they pulled the plug on ISP email hosting
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Diana, Viasat Employee

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I AGREE, BEV!  HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO ALL!   
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Thanks for the lift, Bev! 
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Bah humbug :)


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GabeU, Champion

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Nah.  That's Christmas.  For Valentines Day it's, "Yes, dear."  :)  
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VeteranSatUser, Champion

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Not for all the lonely people.

Just another day for some.
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Diana, Viasat Employee

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:(
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GabeU, Champion

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Very true. 
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A good way to show love would be to make my internet faster. :)
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Frederick Gralenski

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I have to figure out how to get back to a google driven email like they had before, instead of this zimbra mess.  Some progress
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@Gralenski

Synacor owns Zimbra, and if you read their "privacy" policies, Cookies and Web Beacons , its clear they are selling users "cookies."  Viasat dumped their users to Zimbra, but I have no idea if Viasat got a piece of this action.  AT&T dumped Yahoo, and contracted with Zimbra, AT&T dumps Yahoo after 15-year partnership, and AT&T made a bundle off of their users with Yahoo.

Why Viasat can't offer Gmail again, with a small monthly charge, is beyond me.  Viasat wants to present a positive image, but their actions have spoken otherwise.
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Likely because Gmail is free. 
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@Bev

Oh yeah, thanks for the thought....but I got creamed today on my beam...new traffic policy apparently for those on Classic Exede-5, 10GB plan.  I suspect they are robbing Peter (consumers) to pay Paul (30 Jan 2019 American Airlines will let you stream Apple Music over in-flight Wi-Fi for free).   Yes, those on AA will have a Happy Valentine's Day.

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@Gabe

I think they had the business class of gmail, without ads
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People can use an ad blocker for it.  I haven't seen an ad in Gmail in a very, very long time.  
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I never see an ad in my gmail. I dont use the web version of it though.
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@Gabe

Ads are there, just not in your face with adblocker.  Point being, was the act of dumping existing users over to a "marketing" firm, for either making a buck off of them, or to rid themselves of another expense.

Morally, there's no excuse....even Facebook is learning the hard way: Facebook: multibillion dollar fine with FTC
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Well, I disabled my ad blocker, cleared my cookies, restarted Chrome and signed back into Gmail.  Still no ads.   

But, no matter, people can still use any free email they wish.  ViaSat probably dumped it due to it being an unneeded expense.  
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@Gabe

Really.....it even says "Ad"
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Jab

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@Gabe...people can still use any free email they wish

In the beginning during consumer dialup days, there were lots of smaller full service Internet Service Providers, who offered Internet Access, along with email and Usenet services.  I'm not talking about AOL, Delphi, etc...but ISPs.

Then corporate America got into this business....and as Upton Sinclair might say, they milked the consumers who were paying for a service.
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IDK what you are talking about Jab (of course that is not unusual when it comes to your posts). 


Where are you seeing these ads?  I don't get ads in gmail nor do I get much spam.  It has some of the best spam detectors out there.  Actually...too good sometimes. 
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Oh, those ads?  That's pushing the claims of ads a little, isn't it?   Those aren't intrusive like ads on a web page, and they can easily be deleted, just like any other email.  

As for email itself, does it really matter?  There's plenty of free ones out there, and most of those free ones are better than any email offered by smaller ISPs.  
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@Vet

I assume one is using POP3 and SMTP, or IMAP; in which case, ads would not be seen.  So, access Gmail via web interface....and see for yourself.
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Where are you seeing these ads?
He's talking about the email type ads that you sometimes see in the Social and Promotion sections of Gmail.  It's a bit of a stretch to use the term ads, as what we consider ads are quite different than those, which aren't at all intrusive.  
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@Gabe

No such thing as a 'free lunch'  Point made was we are paying for a service.  When we goto McDonalds, local businesses, are they sifting thru our "data" and reselling it?

There are still ISPs who do not infringe upon our privacy....the big boys see economic gains by treading down that road.  Yes, Google et.al. monetized this game, so the Big Boys said "me too."  Monkey See, Monkey Do.  Again, McDonalds and local businesses don't....totally unfair, hey?
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I'm not quite sure which service you're referring to paying for.  If you're referring to ViaSat, you're paying for internet access, not an email address.  If you're using it in the sense of our information is being sold when we use a free email, such is life. Times change.  Today is not 1999.  It's 2019.  Information collected is often sold.   

I'll stick with my free email and the non intrusive "ads" and will continue to recommend the same to others.  It's nearly impossible to do anything on the net today without someone getting hold of some information about you and selling it.  Again, times change, as do policies.  
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@Gabe...nformation collected is often sold.

Quite true, in some countries, and except for Viasat's California customers.....but the point was brick-n-mortar stores don't get to frisk their customers.

I choose the sites visited....Facebook does not collect cookies at my ISPs (plural), nor do other websites....but some ISPs want a piece of this action and have said "me too" when the consumer is paying for a service.  I'm buying Internet service, remember, which morally is opposed to 'private dicks' "remembering" the sites I choose to visit.
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What plan are you on and how much priority data have you used for your current billing cycle?
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"Why Viasat can't offer Gmail again, with a small monthly charge, is beyond me."

Jab,  Gmail discontinued offering Gmail to Viasat and other ISP's.  Nothing Viasat can do about that or I guarantee they would still be using them.

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You still can.
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Anyone can get Gmail, all you need to do is sign up for an account. It is free.
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Not sure what my 'plan' is, but it's $69+ a month, they don't recognize my password, and I can't get my usage...