Get ready for Windows 10

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Windows 10 will be available starting July 29, but be aware the download for this upgrade is pretty large — about 3 GB. There are some things you can do to manage this download, so please read our Help Center article to learn more.
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Alex, Viasat Corporate Communications

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Brian Shackelford

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Also keep in mind with Windows 10 Home Microsoft is making Windows Updates MANDATORY and it cannot be easily turned off.  This means once you upgrade if running the home edition you will have very limited ability (if any) to control when updates are applied.
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Dave

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I did some searching on this mater and I already see via torrent you can DL and iso file and burn it to a dvd. I feel that that way you can backup your system and then Install it. Me I bought another SSD and made a copy of my entire system. So if the upgrade goes bad all I have to do is remove the SSD and replace it and I am back to my old system....Just a thought and a safety precaution. I have been nuked by Microsoft before...Oh by the way the IOS was about 4.5GB...
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I was able to block updates from Microsoft in my router running ww-wrt anytime except during the LNFZ. If you search for Microsoft update firewall you can find a list of all the update sites so you can whitelist them in a firewall to get updates. I used the list as sites to block in the router unless it's during the LNFZ. I also blocked anything else that auto updates such as virus scanners the same way.

I haven't tried it on Win 10, but it should work the same.
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Brian Shackelford

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I agree a more technical person can do this, however I am thinking of the many folks that cannot figure out how to flash a router to ww-wrt or a similar firmware or how to program one to block these updates.

I have a similar setup at my home, but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of users out there are not technically inclined or capable of performing this.  My concern is that there will many, many Exede users who wake up each month to a surprising loss of data due to Windows 10 Home and the way MS is rolling out updates.  I hope Exede is taking this into account in their capacity planning.  I am pretty sure Beam 329 will be nigh unusable for a week or so while 10 is initially rolling out.  We will see.
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My router and a good many others come with WW-WRT so I didn't have to flash it, and I would imagine other better routers would allow blocking like this as well but I don't really know. The programming the router wasn't hard as I just followed directions I found on a Google  search, but I also spent 15 years working on people's computers so I don't have a lot of faith in this ability, though, either. :-)

I definatly agree there is going to be crying and wailing when Win 10 starts DLing in the background and then updates do the same.
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Brian Shackelford

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Here is a nice write up from How-To Geek explaining:

http://bit.ly/1LnZWDT

There aren't even options supposedly to schedule these updates meaning they will download and install when Microsoft wants them to.  Basically home users get to be Beta testers for all the new...let's call them features Microsoft wants to release.

In light of this, what can Exede do to help mitigate the chronic eating of data that Windows 10 will cause since it will be updating automagically?  Perhaps they can throttle Windows updates from Microsoft...no wait they cannot do that since Net Neutrality rules require ISP companies to provide equal bandwidth to all content providers. 

Hopefully a hack for the RTM version of Windows 10 will allow this to be controlled from Home users, but I can foresee a LOT of ticked off users when they install Windows 10 and run out of data very quickly each month.  Not to mention the way 10 is tied to cloud services.  As much as I like 10, I may have to forgo installation of it at home due to these issues.

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but the problem I face is that I HAD NOT upgraded to Windows 10 OR even reserved my spot and exede was blaming half my data usage gone in one day on Windows 10...
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I was trying to edit my post when my edit was thrown out since there was another post made so I will try again.

WW-WRT doesn't allow the use of wildcards in the list of sites blocked and the list at update sites such as at https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Bb693717.aspx is mostly wildcards so you have to use keyword blocking instead. http://*.windowsupdate.microsoft.com from the list would be keyword windowsupdate.microsoft.com but it seems to be working fine.

I also blocked any sites that auto update such as our virus scanner like this.

I haven't tried it on Win 10 but it should work the same.
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I have no plans to install Windows 10. There are so many bugs that need to be fixed, I shall let thosse who just have to have the latest and greatest find them and work through the excitement. Also, Windows 10 is not friendly to those of us on a data budget with its uncontrollable update process. Windows 7 works just great for me, and will be my operating system of choice for many more months.
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Vicki Cook

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HOWEVER HALF my data was gone on the FIRST day of my cycle and I had NOT upgraded or even reserved Windows 10 and Exede rep kept telling me that Windows 10 was the reason it was gone. She refused to listen to me when I kept telling her I had not done anything with regards to Window 10 so you need to still watch data usage carefully. You can also set your usage to metered and it won't automatically update and you can turn off the wifi sharing- despite what another rep tried to tell me today
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Some where I thought I saw there was a setting to tell it you were on a metered connection. I think that allows you to change updates then but I could be wrong.
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Vicki Cook

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there is. Search windows 10 in this forum and a thread comes up with an aritcle that explains it
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From what I can gather, if you have your connection set to metered the  the OS won't download until you tell it to so, you can reserve your copy but, it says nothing about updates once Win 10 is installed. I'm hoping you can still restrict the time of day it checks for updates or at least tell it to notify only but not to DL and install until you tell it to. If not Microsoft needs to find a way to compensate those of us with limited daytime usage but, that's unlikely too.Still if daytime updates are forced, I will be complaining to MS - Loudly and frequently.
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Time will tell, but my understanding is that once you have installed Windows 10, you will have no control over when updates are downloaded.  Some folks are going to routers that are capable of blocking access to specified sites, such as the MS update sites.  I have also read that if you upgrade ($$$) to the pro version of Windows 10 you will have some control over downloading updates.
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Vicki Cook

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You'll be asked to schedule a restart to finish installing updates. Updates won't download over a metered connection (where charges may apply).

this is what it says in my advanced settings and despite the fact that it says there have been NO updates.. Exede tells me it's all windows 10.. but they were saying that when I hadn't even upgraded