For those of you on satellite internet...

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Good luck this month. You are going to need it. 'Tis the Season!

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Posted 4 months ago

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Spinninghorse VS1/B329/Freedom, Champion

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So us rural folk are living back in the 2013 - 2015 broadband days.
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Homeskillet

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I thought the second coming of Robin got japped, how did they get off another post?
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ExSatUser

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Good question.
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bubs

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Came back after getting kicked off, same useless posts as before, not here to help, only to push buttons, more posts erased, and still allowed to be here, again.  Par for the course.
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Homeskillet

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Even then the speed the useless poster is getting now has nothing to do with the holidays as for most they aren't here yet.
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GabeU, Champion

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The posts were deleted, but the new identity wasn't banned.  A typical forum troll to still post when they've been banned.  Pathetic, actually.  A clear "nobody wants you here", but they still show up anyway.  
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I'm one of those who was basically forced off a Freedom plan due to it becoming unbearably slow most of the time. Changed to Liberty 50 and so far it has been pretty good with my speeds staying consistent between 6-12Mbps most of the day. I'm praying that Viasat doesn't alter my plan again.
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I definitely could have lived with 6-12. As some people obviously are in magic spots on uncrowded beams I think I was in a dead spot on a crowded beam. I know the techs run the gamut but after a half dozen of them took a crack at it you would think one of them aligned it correctly. I was constantly around 1 Mbps or under on a Liberty 12 plan, and that was rarely going over priority data.
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I agree. I can actually live with a consistent 5 Mbps. It is when it gets below 2 that things get ugly.
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ExSatUser

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Yea. I was forced off Freedom too. But I dumped Viasat. Wasn't going to do business with a company that treated customers that way. They didn't want to give me my plan, so I didn't give them my money. Lol
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Spinninghorse VS1/B329/Freedom, Champion

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ExSatUser - AND you had a better option.  :-)
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Admiral Korbohuta

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If I had another option other than Hughes or Viasat I would've cancelled satellite long ago. The funny thing is that thanks to the 3 hour freezone I'm using more data per month than I did on Freedom.
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Free zone is a good thing. Should have never given it up. But then the false promise of 150GB months got me too.

Too bad a company didnt deliver what they had promised to do.
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If I had another option other than Hughes or Viasat I would've cancelled satellite long ago. 
I've no doubt that we all feel the same way.  
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ExSatUser

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LOL
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Homeskillet

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Those 70 MPH winds you had when all through the USA there were no winds above 25 MPH? You are nothing but a LIAR. Get a life. Quite humorous how the threads you start are closed yet you still exist.

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ExSatUser

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It amazes me how much they are estimating the average household uses now!
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Doesn’t amaze me at all. I can use 6 GB a day without even breaking a sweat. What amazes me is that Viasat still considers data caps in the 12 - 100 GB range anything other than laughable.
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When Viasat-1 came online, the one plan was 7.5GB/month with no free zone. Think about that!
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Homeskillet

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I still survive on 15 GB a month on red wireless. When I go over which I usually do late in the month the 600 Kbps throttled speed is still good enough to listen to internet radio and you tube music. Websites with high security are a little slow, but still work.
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ExSatUser

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I use 14GB a month just on my mobile device!
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Homeskillet

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My mobile device is a flip phone.
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So is mine
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ExSatUser

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To each his own!
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I would still have my phone that was half the size of a brick if I did not have to dive down an embankment to miss an out of control car 15 years ago while waiting for a wrecker to load my motorcycle that had a flat. I have never replaced any technology until it broke or was unusable. Up till a couple years ago I had computers running Windows 98 in my machine shop. As late as 2006 I was using PCs to run machines using DOS. If it ain't broke, no need to fix it.
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But stuff does become obsolete or too expensive to maintain.

My one way DirecPc was still working in 2006, until speeds became intolerable. Hey, where have we seen that before!
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I'm an oddity in that I pretty much only have a cell phone for emergencies, whether out and about or if I were to lose my home phone for some reason, which has only happened once in fifteen years, and due to a branch falling from my front maple tree and taking out my line.  It was fixed the next day.  

I'm so unconcerned about getting more minutes and data that I go the cheap way, as in buying a 30 day card for $9.99 and then adding 365 days on for another $49.95.  I only get 90 minutes, texts and MBs, but I already have over 5000 of each of the first two and 3.6GB of data, and over the last four years I'm lucky if I've used more than two hours, 20 texts and 100MB of data.  ~$60 for 395 days of service isn't bad.  
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Gabe, sounds like Tracfone.  I had them almost 20 years, and I also accumulated many minute/whatever buying the year cards (but, the ones with airtime).  I switched when another carrier had a 6 month big discount with phone hotspot, and then Vz with the jetpack, and at the time dirt cheap air cards on ebay (they aren't cheap now, but phone plus jetpack is still "cheap" with the autopay and discounts).

$60 is ok, about $60 including a new phone and the year of service plus the airtime might be better. They have other bundles too.  https://www.qvc.com/Tracfone-LG-Rebel-4-5%22-Smartphone-with-1500-TalkTextData.product.E233693.html?...

Or $40 for no phone, but Vz is out of stock now, I don't know if they will get it back in.  Vz was in stock for quite some time at $50 if I recall correctly (direct from Tracfone on their ebay store).  Might not hurt to keep an eye on it, if Tracfone's what you use.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tracfone-Prepaid-Wireless-Smartphone-Plan-SIM-1200-Min-1200-Txt-3GB-Data/28...

Different MVNO at $60/year. https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-42-Mo-Red-Pocket-Prepaid-Wireless-Phone-Plan-Kit-100-Talk-100-Text-500MB/...
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haha Tracfone was my first cell. No apps then, it was all about playing the snake game and changing out faceplates. I guess the latter is still true somewhat but I'm content with a "I believe" Yeti sticker slapped on mine. 

Reeling back to the overall conversation...that's pretty par for the course this time of year. One can argue when Disney+ launched it gave a headstart.  I'd encourage setting device resolutions and maybe looking up usage if Santa or Krampus brings a smart home device (some are MASSIVE drainers).
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But stuff does become obsolete or too expensive to maintain.


I am starting to phase out the old stuff as my closet full of spare "vintage" computer parts is becoming depleted. I was using floppys to transfer files between computers up to a year ago. The computer controlled machines I operate run off of text files as they have for decades, if the control is manufactured from the same company a program that will operate a machine built in the early 80's will function in a machine built in 2019.
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I haven't used a floppy in 15 years. Why would you use storage media that is so obsolete?
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Homeskillet

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I had a machine that was run off software stored on floppys, it had a floppy drive built into it. It was the 1980's version of old computer driven machines that ran off of looped punch tapes. The manufacture of the machine was long since out of business and it was rare. The thing finally became impossible to repair  as I ran out of spare parts I cannibalized off a twin machine I had bought with it. So that ended my need for floppys when I hauled it to the scrap yard.
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I had a cell phone back in the mid/late 90s.  A Motorola TeleTac 200.  I got a Sprint phone in 2001, but after the commitment I closed the account as I never really used it, and $60 per month for something I wasn't using seemed ludicrous.  

My first TracFone was a Samsung S150G, which was $9 at Walmart.  My current one is an LG Premier LTE.  It's not a bells and whistles phone, but it's enough for me.  I use it more for playing Candy Crush than anything else.  LOL.  
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Will be interesting to see how slow primetime will get in the next couple weeks. Many of us old timers remember awful speeds a few years ago in December.
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Right? Didn't those big promises of what Viasat-2 would do for us follow that?  LOL  Good times.
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In fairness to Viasat, Viasat-2 had serious issues that prevented it from reaching its full potential. For much of the country, Viasat-2 has done nothing.
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Those issues, other than citing some antenna failures, were never fully disclosed to my knowledge. An insurance settlement was reached and then silence since. At one point they were going to try and reboot (I’m sure it’s more technical than that), but like I said...silence.
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ExSatUser

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They did get $185 million or so in a settlement.

But now it is on to Mexico.

Viva la Viasat!
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They internet suck so bad it
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Doing good this season with speeds but not with Viasat now I have moved on.
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Bradley

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That’s pretty solid compared to satellite.
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I have satellite and here is my speed test done minutes ago. Other that the ping time I have much better speed.
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I can change my plan and get way faster speed but I pay for 10mbps down 1mbps up and true unlimited data with fixed wireless. I stay at 10mbps down doesn't drop any that I have seen so far, my isp is fiber fed at the tower so it is pretty solid like Bradley said. Your speed is great I just never seen those speeds when I was on Viasat.
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Yes. True unlimited and solid speeds along with low latency are the way to go. Satellite will never get all three....or will Elon?
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I had fixed wireless for a number of years with 3 Mbps down and 1 up. This speed actually worked well and had very low latency. I started to have problems and found out there was lots of interference on the same frequency as the tower I was getting my signal from. They told me to alleviate the problem it would mean they would have to upgrade equipment. I was told they would not upgrade as only a hand full of people were using internet off that tower. As a result they cut me off a years end.

Viasat works very well for me. Only thing I don't like is limit on data. Pretty sure I'm not the only one on Viasat that is satisfied. But I'm sure not many people that like Viasat comment on this forum. Most of the people on this forum only complain about it.
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So what you are saying Paul D is we all should be happy with your speed?  After all, if you are getting these stats so is everyone else?  How about we trade?  I just ran a speed test:  
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As a side note, that is the best upload speed I have had in 6 yrs with Viasat.
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@ Bradley

 Well.....Elon is going for it so lets hope he can pull it off. I think he will get it going, now I'm sure there will be set backs and so on but that comes with any new projects of that scale. I am looking forward to see how it will come together I mean this is something new for all of us to witness so lets hope the big guy can do it.
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Most of the people on this forum only complain about it.
It's human nature.  People don't tend to go out of their way to express satisfaction or happiness with a product or service, but when it's the opposite they often do.
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@ Paul D

 Well that sucks they did not do the upgrade for the tower and one would think they could have got some grant money to help with it. Grants is what got my area going so hang in there you never know what ay show up for you in the near future.

 I was happy to have Viasat for the 5 years I had them and sure it had it's ups and downs at times but I was thankful I could get internet at that time. 
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I'm not saying everyone is getting the speed I am or should be happy with Viasat. What I am saying is I don't believe the majority of customers are unhappy. Just that most of the happy customers don't comment on this forum. Usually if they do the unhappy customer cut them to shreds.
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Only an old man with 3 cats could truly be satisfied with satellite internet.
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I only have one cat and am not yet 50, but I'm satisfied with my satellite internet.  Sure, I would rather have something better, but it works well enough for me, and with having it for fifteen years I can easily use it within its means, not expecting it to be something it's not.
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Lol. But that “I’d like to have something better” signals not completely satisfied. I get it. I got by for years. Thriving beats surviving. I think options will change in a year or so. Hang in there.
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You can still get 3 cats even though you're only 50 - I won't hold your youth and inexperience against you.
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I was talking to my local co-op board member and didnt like what I heard. Satellite internet providers (I am sure Viasat is one of them) is telling co-ops not to invest in internet infrastructure because in 3 years it will be obsolete due to what satellite internet is going to deliver. Sad.
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I have heard that also. Anyone who thinks any satellite system is going to obsolete optical fiber is living in a fantasy world.
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Yes. But to the layman it all sounds good. And you know Viasat is using propaganda to the fullest to try and deter the expansion of fiber in rural America
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Sad indeed.
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True, but board member have an obligation to educate themselves beyond the layman level. The good thing is that the NRECA is finally getting onboard and that will help a lot as many boards who aren't’ willing to learn and think for themselves will follow what the NRECA says.
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Pretty sure the reference is to LEO satellite constellations not GEO - even then debatable but doubt it's Viasat deterring fiber expansion - their sights are turned elsewhere away from residential internet services. We'll know soon enough, but let me put it this way... I'm not looking for anybody to pull fiber to my door step regardless of whether it's subsidized or not - it's not a good financial decision. But if somebody wants to do that and offer me unlimited at $79 per month, I'll be glad to sign up.

As Belichick might say... we're on to Viasat-4

https://spacenews.com/viasat-starts-viasat-4-development-mulls-hybrid-geo-leo-terrestrial-connections/
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