First really bad night since starting service 5 weeks ago.

  • 1
  • Problem
  • Updated 7 months ago
  • Acknowledged
Viasat is very constipated tonight in the PA beam.
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 374 Posts
  • 97 Reply Likes
  • bummed

Posted 7 months ago

  • 1
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
Prolly gonna have to get used to it or jump ship for a verizon jetpack like alot of us are , Viasat only seems to get worse not better , If you can get 1-2 bars cell signal in your area id check out a jetpack for sure , Alot of ppl lately are having slow speeds since december last year when they started sending out emails to let ppl know about theyre policy change
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
We shall see. I barely get 1 bar here and seldom can complete a phone call without a loss of connection. Doubtful a Jetpack would be any improvement over satellite. I am pretty well stuck for a couple more years until our electric cooperative gets its fiber system deployed. Then it will be balls to the wall!
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
Did you get a email from them about policy change lately? alot of us did and they seemed to have slowed alot of us down to the speeds your getting now during peak hours and in some cases non peak hours whether or not we went over our monthly cap 
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
Voyager, time to drink some of that Miralax again.
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
No, no letter about a policy change. Did it apply to all plans? I am on the Liberty 50 plan. Fortunately, the issue was short-lived and I am back to a usable speed again.
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
Not sure if it applied to all plans or not , Are you over your monthly cap tho or ?
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
Yes. I use 5-6 GB per day so my 50 GB allocation lasts 9-10 days at best.
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
Wow 7 mbps is really good specially for being over your cap during prime hours
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
This is what I typically see after exceeding the data cap. Prior to that, 15-18 is typical, which surprised me since only 12 MB was advertised. My old DSL advertised 6 MB, but 1.5-3 was typical. And in prime time, less than 0.5 was not unusual and the biggest issue was frequent disconnects. Viasat, even with its warts, has thus far been much better than Frontier DSL.

I certainly expect a few times of poor performance during prime time after hitting the data cap.
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
Wow thats great , Do you see higher speeds than 7mbps in nonpeak hours like morning and early evening?
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
Occasionally. I saw 12 MB just before noon today. Then 1.5 an hour or so later.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Nothing like slowing some people down while over delivering on people with Liberty Pass.

A strategy perhaps?
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
Maybe curious Hmm so if we switch off the 150 unlimited we wont be hit as bad when we go over cap it seems perhaps ? Or on the other hand maybe its just a matter of time before they get hit also , I wonder 
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Well, they definitely want people to give up Freedom. They dont want anybody with 150GB of priority data, regardless of satellite. Lower priority data gives them cover when people experience lower speeds.
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
My Liberty plan has slowed to a crawl over the past few days, even during the free hours 3am to 6am it has been near unusable for me. So there is more going on behind the curtain since I have not seen speeds this slow since back in the spring of 2018, Christmas holidays was no trouble but now it slows down. I will wait to see if others on Liberty are having the same results before I say much on the matter as it could be just a fluke.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
I agree. The holidays this year were not bad. The speeds in January for many have been abysmal.
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
I am not giving up my Freedom. I'll just do heavy lifting during off peak hours.
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
I am not giving up my Freedom. I'll just do heavy lifting during off peak hours.
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
Oh wow , if they hit terry any one of us could be next to go : (
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
I thought only Freedom and Unlimited plans were affected by the policy change?
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
Wow and I thought my VIASAT service sucked. VIASAT is getting worse yet they are still carpet bombing my area in Central Va where service never was worth a crap with TV ads and roadside signs. Does any business have lower morals than VIASAT?
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
Al, I thought you weren't with Viasat anymore?
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
I am not. I dumped VIASAT a couple months ago for a Verizon Jetpack, never been happier. The Verizon service isn't great but it blows away VIASAT. At least it doesn't drop out a dozen times a day and is better than DSL.
(Edited)
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
@al Cool what speeds r u getting with it
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
My speeds are usually in the 5mbs-10mbs range. I am 3 miles from a tower it is pretty flat but heavily wooded. The big thing for me is it never drops and the latency is like 30ms. With VIASAT I also had issues signing in to online banking and other sites needing passwords. Sometimes I could not get to online banking for a whole day. I also had issues ordering supplies for my business online, some websites did not function correctly. All those issues are gone now.
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
Not bad this morning for being in Liberty pass mode.
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
Not bad this morning for being in Liberty pass mode.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
You're destroying the narrative here ;)

Must be a magic beam.
(Edited)
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
Nobody is destroying anything. VIASAT does have happy customers who get good service, they are just the exception to the rule.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
Glad to hear Verizon's working out for you too, Al. Maybe coincidence but things on 329 got better when you left at least for me. Everybody here jumped on Vopyagers one bad speed test result prematurely. I get one every now and then also. His results are similar to mine on Liberty. At 7:32PM on a Saturday, I wouldn't expect much more than his original, and at 8:00 AM on Sunday expect much better.

You're just pissed because not everybody is pissed. Like you, I encourage everyone on 329 to switch to Verizon- at least on that we agree.
(Edited)
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
I am not pissed that everybody is not pissed. What I do not like is companies that use deceptive and misleading advertising, like VIASAT. I also do not like companies that flat out lie to their customers, once again a nice VIASAT trait. I also think the people that constantly post good VIASAT numbers and act like they had something to do with them is annoying.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
I know Al, you're just hear performing your civic duty.
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
Interesting. I have yet to see a single piece of deception in Viasat’s advertising and I reviewed it for several weeks before deciding to take the plunge and ditch DSL. Verizon is not an option in my location as we can barely get text messages here and phone calls drop almost every call. I am getting the speeds that Viasat said to expect. I actually generally exceed them when under the data cap often seeing 18 Mbps which is above the 12 my plan said to expect. And they clearly said that many games would not work (I am not a game player so no issue here) and many VPNs would not work, but again I don’t use VPN.

Yes, the service is often slow during prime time post-cap, but I was told to expect 1-3 Mbps in those conditions and I almost always get that. I have only had one or two times, one of which I started this thread with, where the performance has dropped below 1 Mbps for any length of time.

I am sure there are unscrupulous installers out there who may be making untrue claims about Viasat, but I certainly got no such claims from my installer and Viasat has most of their claims on their web site in public, including billing policy. I have yet to see a single lie or deceptive claim from Viasat.

I have seen many complaints here from people who were too lazy to do any homework before signing a contract that they hadn’t read and didn’t understand and are mad because nobody held their hand and did all of their homework for them.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
Careful, he's getting ready to play the "homer" card...

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
(Edited)
Photo of Bev

Bev, Champion

  • 3287 Posts
  • 1462 Reply Likes
The biggest problem I see, and it totally isn't Viasat's fault is that people read "UP TO xxx Mbps" and think it means "Absolutely that exact speed at all times." 
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
Someone asked if this applies to Liberty Pass or Free Zone. It most certainly does. See second paragraph...

Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
Someone asked if this applies to Liberty Pass or Free Zone. It most certainly does. See second paragraph...

Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
I am one of the smallest data consumers I feel certain. Hasn’t stopped my speeds from being slowed even further.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
Not really a change from the prior document which stated:

In addition, if needed to address congestion in a spot beam, Viasat may further reduce the speeds of the Network traffic of heavier users of Liberty Pass and of Excess Freedom Users through the end of their then-current billing period if de-prioritization is not sufficient to adequately manage congestion.  
Just addition of the affected unlimited plans and further clarification.

None of these changes directly impact limited plans - hence no email. Actually beneficial to them. It's hard to distinguish exceptions from rules - but it is safe to say that the experiences of a handful of susbcribers (dare I say dozens) is reflective of the majority of subscribers.

But yeah , I'd expect slow while on liberty pass except during off peak hours and about what Voyager posted originally.

April 18, 2018 version can be found here or the duck is your friend:

http://getruralsatellite.com/viasat/network-management-policy.pdf 

Similar searches on the other two documents changed will allow identifying the actual changes - if not, there's always Wayback - the interweb is forvever.
(Edited)
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
The way I read the policy, if you use the service at all, you will experience slow speeds. People who don’t use the service will experience great speeds.

I don’t use it much, and yes, I’m experiencing great speeds ;).
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
Your assuming those of us on limited plans don;t know how to get blood out of a stone ;)

Those of us on Liberty can only offer up empirical evidence that things are better and I can only say I am using the service heavily - but not using data heavily (except during the free zone).
(Edited)
Photo of Brad

Brad, Viasat Employee

  • 3448 Posts
  • 1290 Reply Likes
Didn't want to read all the replies but Liberty Plans are not affected by the recent policy change. Probably was a really busy night as evidenced by the better speeds this morning 
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1281 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
Liberty plans have always had the wording that allowed speeds to be throttled at whim. Didn’t mean to imply the wording of the policy had changed, but nonetheless, the end result is the same. A LARGE number of subscribers are seeing slower speeds (even as you point out some plans are unaffected by the newly worded policy). Well within ViaSat’s guidelines and contracts. Speeds that are drastically reduced since the end of December.

We are seeing the full scope of these policies now in effect as ViaSat tries to milk more and more money for less and less service.
Photo of Brad

Brad, Viasat Employee

  • 3448 Posts
  • 1290 Reply Likes
Oh I was more specifically answering the comment asking if it was part of the policy change. The Liberty Plans aren't affected and all those affected by the policy change should have been contacted by email by now. 

Liberty throttling though should be largely during the peak hours of 5pm-12am outside of that it should improve but I do not monitor the network or know what speeds are averaging by beam so I'd say if you're seeing slower speeds outside that peak hour time frame to call us to see if we can fix it with our advance support team.

Part of that recent policy change was to help fix some of the network traffic across the board so that might be tied to it. 
Photo of jessica & james shehan

jessica & james shehan

  • 9 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
But of course Viasat doesn't throttle! No matter how many times I rest the modem or how perfectlybckear it is outside or the fact that its midnight or middle of the day it continues to degrade. And as far as finding other helpful information on Google, well, that's what I pay Viasat for.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
You'd probably do better to go back to your original conversation and continue it there.

This one's really about Liberty Plans (and has veered way off topic) which at last check were in fact throttled after priority data was exhausted.

Your original conversation is at:

https://community.viasat.com/viasat/topics/terrible-erbjr5uv0h4s1


Brad may be better able to focus on your problem there where he's not taking arrows from all sides ;)

There's really only one Liberty subscriber here that has identified a problem, Terry Hill

https://community.viasat.com/viasat/topics/first-really-bad-night-since-starting-service-5-weeks-ago...

(Edited)
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1281 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
It’s really a customer to customer “self-help” forum. Mods do offer suggestive advice at times, but their focus is/should be on making sure forum guidelines are followed. Here is an example of a forum guideline violation...

Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
I agree Al should be banned  - he's not even a customer anymore;)

But what violation are you imagining?

Nice try at trying to deflect from the advice given to jessica and james sheehan, where even I await his response there in the spirit of customer-to-customer "self help".
(Edited)
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
Why would someone who was not a VIASAT employee, stock holder, or just plain stupid want to silence someone who had a negative opinion of VIASAT? If you are a current customer anything that would drive someone away from using them should improve your service as your beam will be less congested. As for this being a place to get VIASAT customers a place to help each other, get real. 99% of the VIASAT customers who have dropped service and slow speeds are because of over selling the service creating congestion, nothing can fix that.
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
Al, why do you spend so much time on this forum? You're not even a customer of satellite internet service. Doesn't Verizon have their own forum? Most of us here have Viasat because we have no other choices for decent internet other than satellite. I for one am happy with the service and have learned to deal with its limitations. If it wasn't for satellite I would still be stuck with dial up!
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
I do not spend a lot of time here, just a break here and there from work. I am self employed and work from home. I feel I am doing my civic duty. The service in my area always sucked and VIASAT and their contractors are carpet bombing this area with ads. In rural Central VA a lot of my neighbors are not that bright, poor and seem excited that VIASAT has come to town even though if they sign up they will be throwing away their hard earned money on something not much better than dial up.

(Edited)
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
Not much better than dial up? Are you serious? I downloaded a 35GB game last week over my Viasat connection. Try doing that on dial up.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes

If you want to do your civic duty Al, go around door to door to all of your not so bright and poor rural neighbors and explain that to them. Start by telling them that they’re all deplorables and should listen to you because you know of what you speak – do your neighbors know you talk about them like that?.

Nobody’s attempting to silence you and apparently you missed some of the emojis. I would however like to see some substance behind your unqualified claim (as in claims not backed by anything of substance), other than simply because Viasat sucks and because Verizon... what’s next? Because Bush or Because Obama?

If wanting to do your civic duty, take your Jetpack and a laptop up to US 17 North and sit in Geico’s parking lot within a 100 feet of the nearest Verizon tower. Run some speed tests on various days of the week at 0200, 0600 – 0900, 1200-1300, 1600 – 1800, and 2100 hours. That should include at least one weekday and a day on the weekend (a holiday would also be nice since the snowbirds and vacationers keep it pretty backed up also). Be sure you’re running off the Verizon tower (actually antenna because there are multiple). That should give me some idea of how heavily that tower is used during rush hour on a heavily used highway feeding I-95, as well as by the abundance of condos, businesses, single family homes and apartments in that area.   

After you’ve done that, wind your way back in three or four miles towards the river where it’s heavily wooded and just over a ridge which slopes down to the river bank. Repeat the same tests and post the results ensuring you’re using that same Verizon tower/antenna. That’ll give me an idea of what I can expect –I don’t live there but similar topography at the similar distance and that’s the only tower I can reach.

When done, go around to each of your neighbors, if they’re still talking to you, and run the same types of tests for them - you can hand them those results in person, post mine here.    

I will then applaud you for your “civic duty” – you should run for office, and will then be qualified to say “I’m from the government and I’m here to help” rather than simply, Viasat sucks and because Verizon which is all you've brought to the table so far - some may start calling you a Version paid shill, I won't because I know you're a Viasat paid anti-shill. Just don't call the voters "deplorables" - that strategy didn't work out too well.

Stop with the name calling, I’m not an employee nor am I a stockholder - you're being unkind to them ;)

I’ll let y’all and others figure out what of the rest is sarcasm – you’re smart, right? I really only come here for the entertainment. Lord knows, very few actually come here for the help.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
(Edited)
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
He could also contact the State of Florida. They are all over it already, allegedly.
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
My not much better than dial up comment was my own experience which is shared by a lot of people in my area. In fact when It came to dropping out completely VIASAT did it way more on a daily basis than my first dial up connection did in 1995. Another thing I brought to the table to HELP is sharing that 3 times I got VIASAT to send a tech out for free because my contract was up and I threatened to cancel. A lot of people do not think VIASAT would comp a tech call. As for testing Verizon's signal, why? Since there is a no risk 14 day trial people can test it themselves without the risk of losing hundreds of dollars if it fails, unlike with VIASAT.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
My experience on the same beam you were on is vastly different and suspect I know why based on some of your past posts. You only showed up here 4 months ago seeking help only arguing with those that offered help even refusing the help offered by an employee. See:

https://community.viasat.com/viasat/topics/cant-login-to-various-websites-with-viasat

Why not trial? Because a thorough test would take me longer than 14 days to thoroughly evaluate the effects of prioritization over a monthly prepaid plan and there is that $50 restocking fee also regardless - even with the cheap $49.99 Jetpack - I still be out a chunk of change ($123.14 to be exact and might as well just keep the Jetpack as a paper weight with that you get nothing back for the st month of prepaid).

I was hoping a civic minded individual doing his duty would come along, and address the areas of the fine print that I have concerns about. But oh well... I've highlighted them (click to enlarge as needed).:





I do however appreciate Viasat allowing us the opportunity to discuss alternatives to their service openly within their sponsored community (evil doers that they are they've been gracious in allowing this open exchange - although Brad's getting a little bit testy).

So for all the rest, take all of the information here and weigh carefully whether it's in your best interest and be sure to read all of the fine print when making an informed buying decision. Particularly the fine print regarding de-prioritization at any time during times of congestion as it may relate to your cell tower (as opposed to your beam). Unless you can answer withing the context of the cell tower and topography above, I don't want to hear about your experiences but by all means share them.

Decide for yourselves who's being helpful or TL;DR...

Viasat sucks because Verizon.
(Edited)
Photo of Al Santayos

Al Santayos

  • 229 Posts
  • 106 Reply Likes
I had techs contracted by VIASAT out 3 times, all I got was them blaming the websites I was having trouble with and or my VIASAT equipment was obsolete and they did not have the authority to change it out. All 3 techs seemed very annoyed that they could not be in and out in 15 minutes. Like I said many times, I have very minimal needs and VIASAT could not even meet those.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
You shouldn't have let your conversation started on October 16 have degraded to the point it became non-productive leading ti to be closed. Even I didn't want to jump into that circular firing squad back then.

Had you identified your location, I would have suggested an installer who actually knows what he's doing in this area (of course you'd have to pay him - the best often don't come cheap and rarely comp for others mistakes). At the same time I might have suggested trying a couple of things on your end to see if they had any impact. I even have that same obsolete equipment as I was told by an installer probably working out of the same retailer as you had. I showed him the door and called my regular guy who promptly fixed that problem on that so-called obsolete equipment. Unfortunately, from day one you gave the impression you really weren't seeking any help - oh well.

But Verizon seems to be serving you well, just don;t assume it will serve everyone well - at least no more than assuming Viasat will.

Enough said... Adios Al, we've complete the circle of life on this one.
(Edited)
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
Al, sounds to me like the technicians in your area are incompetent. I've had Exede/Viasat since it launched in 2012 and never had any issues.
Photo of Steve Frederick-VS1/Beam314

Steve Frederick-VS1/Beam314, Champion

  • 3131 Posts
  • 2015 Reply Likes
If that tech think you have obsolete equipment, just invite him to leave immediately. I have never had any problems that weren't addressed quickly. Many of us still are using the original Surfbeam 2 modems, and would rather have them than those combo modem/routers. I am still on my original tria installed in April 2012 and it works just fine.
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
I'm still using the old Surfbeam 2 modem as well, but it's the second one. The original literally crapped out less than 24 hours after my Exede installation. My local technician replaced it the next day and I haven't had a problem since.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes

Better speeds this morning?  What a joke.  I am getting 500kbps this morning. 


Usually I can get on the internet and tell right away when the speeds are pathetic.  This morning was no different.
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
We’ve chased this rabbit 100 different ways. I know they’ll never guarantee a “base” speed, but any company that can’t provide a minimum 1Mbps speed, really needs to go back to the drawing board with business practices and network management policies.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
I would agree with that.  I can deal with 1Mbps.  It is speeds that go below 500kbps where tasks start to fail.
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
Yes, I can get by at 1 Mbps, but it definitely is noticeably painful below that. Fortunately, I have had only a few times when it got below that and they were short-lived thus far.
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2762 Posts
  • 1436 Reply Likes
Liberty Pass speeds last night and Liberty Pass speeds this morning. I’m a happy camper.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
(ignore)
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2762 Posts
  • 1436 Reply Likes
My priority data reset today. I’m paying for up to 12 mbps and current speed is 14 mbps.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
(Ignore)
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 2000 Posts
  • 1217 Reply Likes
You and your magic beam.  :)  
Photo of Charles Williams

Charles Williams

  • 14 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
this is my new constant base line, i am paying for the 150gb of 25mbps.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
I just run a test at 9:20pm on a Monday.

I am pulling 174kbps and used 16GB for my usage cycle.

Really good job there Viasat ;).
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
I used about 6 gig and im getting 60-80 kbps lol 
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
My Liberty is has been slow since Friday to where it is unusable, going to give it a week longer if it's still slow I'm calling to get boxes to send back this paper weight.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Yea. If primetime speeds like this continue I will not "upgrade". I will be joining Gabe on Hughesnet!
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
Was a nice warm day today so I was cleaning out my garage and found my old VCR and many totes of vhs movies I forgot I had. Hooked up the VCR and it still works so I'm watching some 80's movies and enjoying the back in time experience.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Huey Lewis and the News!
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
Howard the Duck?
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
One of the first super hero comic book movies..
Photo of Brad

Brad, Viasat Employee

  • 3446 Posts
  • 1289 Reply Likes
by George Lucas. It's not great, it's really weird to watch now and I can't go into details for obvious reasons but there's a podcast called How Did This Get Made that has a great deep-dive of the movie.

and people hate on the Star Wars prequels (fantastic meme factories those are)
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
The movie had Lea Thompson. What more was needed!
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
The movie had Lea Thompson. What more was needed!
A movie with Phoebe Cates or Mary Stuart Masterson.  

I still have a bunch of VHS movies and a working VCR.  Haven't used it in a few years now.  
(Edited)
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
Kelly Preston (Mischief)

Jami Gertz  (The Lost Boy's)

Mia Sara (Ferris Bueller's Day Off)

Lori Singer (Footloose)

Catherine Bach for my top pick! WOW did she make my heart skip a beat lol
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
OMG!!!  How could I forget Mia Sara?  And in one of the best 80s films!!!  

I forgot about Ally Sheedy, too.  

I was a little too young for the whole Catherine Bach thing.  I was twelve when the show ended.  
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
Yup Sheedy was nice with Johnny 5. I was 11 when the Dukes ended boy that seems so long ago now. Shame on you forgetting Mia Sara lol But you brought up  Phoebe Cates so we good lmao
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
Watching Red Dawn atm WOLVERINES! Oh and my god we forgot Jennifer Grey to. Loving the look of the vcr tbh takes you back to some great memories of day's past. 
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
Ah, yeah, Jennifer Grey.  Nobody puts Baby in a corner!  

And we can't forget 1980s Meg Ryan!  
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Fast Times at Ridgemont High

They sure dont make movies like they use to.

How many Academy Award winners were in that movie?!?!?
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
That’s was a good movie. So many words were used in that movie that would get a person accused of hate speech today.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
It is a GREAT movie. So is Blazing Saddles. Another movie that would never get made today.
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
Amen.
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
How bought Smokey and the Bandit? I love me some Buford T Justice. Especially when he met Sheriff Branford.
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
Daddy my hat fell off, to bad your head wasn't in it!! lol
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Never a Burt Reynolds fan. UNTIL, he made Boogie Nights. Another classic!
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
Classic but not suitable for small children.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
None of these movies we are talking about are suitable for young children, and that includes you Gwen!
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
Stripes.  Another 80s classic!  Filmed where I went to basic training.  :)  
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
Lot's of great movies you guy's are bringing up, my fav 80's movie will always be The Goonies. So many greats from 80's not only movies but music and so on, it was an awesome period to be alive and glad I was part of it.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
That's a fact, Jack!
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
My folks took me to see Stripes at a drive in not long after it came out.  They hadn't seen it.  I was nine or ten.  My mother covered my eyes.  LMAO!!!!
(Edited)
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
@vet lol  im just watching reruns of the twilight zone 
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
The original series ('59 - '64) or the revival(s)?  

You'd probably like "The Outer Limits", too.  
(Edited)
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
@gabe , Love outerlimits and the ones with rod sterling guy in them ( Im not sure if theyre remakes or not ) , I found all of them on youtube lol , Love shows like that and shadow zone : )
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
The episodes with Rod Serling are the originals.  The best!  I had know idea they were on Youtube.  Good to know.    
(Edited)
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
@gabe  , Yea i watch alot of older shows on youtube like that that are hard to find other places , If you like the twilight zone like me you should check out Tales from the darkside also 
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
Yep.  That was another good show.  I watched the original series when I was a kid.  
Photo of Gwen

Gwen

  • 320 Posts
  • 225 Reply Likes
Im the only one in my entire family that likes scary movies lol 
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
I have the entire Twilght Zone series on DVD.

Love Outer Limits too.

Rod Serling also did Planet of the Apes. I am talking the original, not the crap movies that followed it.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
Suddenly, a ghostly white hand emerges from the conversation, followed by a violent earthquake. As the shaking subsides, Carol Anne announces "They're here".

https://community.viasat.com/viasat/topics/whats-your-favorite-80s-movie

Last known sighting of Fred Sanford for Stephen... well he didn't see his nominee until the 80s and I'm pretty sure it didn't receive an Oscar nod until 1980 so it counts. Just don't bring up award winning documentaries from the 2000s.

(Edited)
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 374 Posts
  • 97 Reply Likes
After 5 on a weekday post-cap and still doing reasonably well. The download speed is more than twice my former DSL connection (it did 3 Mbps on its absolute best) and upload speed is 10X faster. I seldom had more than 0.3 upload on DSL.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
Liberty pass or not?

Right now (7:50PM) not on Liberty pass but pulling 9.9 Mbps - central VA.
(Edited)
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
Liberty still sick today
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Sad
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
Most likely it’s chronic. Lots of people on here have gotten some great speeds on Liberty Pass. I never did. Basically unusable when I ran out of priority data. I’m very surprised that more users haven’t reported the same.

Mark my words, in the coming few weeks Liberty Pass users will begin to see a slow down on all beams.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
IDK about that. Some beams just dont have a lot of traffic on them.
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1968 Posts
  • 1206 Reply Likes
It's difficult to believe how incredibly low the speeds have been getting for some people.  Speeds like this, and even worse, what's shown further up, make it hard to browse even simple web pages, let alone use things like social media.  And at 3PM?  Just...wow.  
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
We’ve seen different pricing across beams. We’ve seen different plans offered. This latest traffic management maneuver was across all equally. Why not target specific beams with restrictions? Actually the restrictions probably hit the less busy beams the hardest. Freedom was only offered in select areas, mostly areas that seem to have excess capacity. May be wrong, but something is up.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Freedom was offered in places like NYC and upstate Minnesota.

I agree that whatever changes they have made is really hitting some people hard. Hard to the point of unusable. I can even live with 500kbps. When it goes south of there, short of a person under a hard cap, that is totally unacceptable to me.
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
After 6 hard throttle.
Photo of Voyager

Voyager

  • 369 Posts
  • 96 Reply Likes
Yep, a little slow this evening.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
I would love those primetime speeds!
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
How bout these apples?

Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
Stephen, you won't get much sympathy when your beam turns to trash. And it will eventually.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
I doubt it.  Obviously nobody is using Viasat in his area (but him). 

Meanwhile I am getting 500kbps right now.
(Edited)
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
Stephen can be fickle. Let him experience one night of what most of us experience, and he would turn on ViaSat in a heartbeat. He did sell all his stock, remember? Before selling it all, remember how he touted the promise of future earnings lol?
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
Yep. Back before the antenna failure. I moved everything over to FOCPX and I’m much happier.
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
Down 3% for the year doesn’t make me happy, but I believe in personal liberty.
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
I’m only .95% down since I moved my VSAT to FOCPX. It is a small loss but it will be back in the green soon. It was even further in the red last year.
Photo of Bradley

Bradley

  • 1279 Posts
  • 416 Reply Likes
Actually we agree. Pretty decent fund to place some money.

Don’t get me wrong, I wanted ViaSat to be successful. It appears they have chosen a path that leads elsewhere. Individual stock picks are tough. Mutual funds are better suited for steady long term gains.
Photo of fmj77

fmj77

  • 893 Posts
  • 536 Reply Likes
I don't know VetSat. Rural Louisiana is becoming pretty popular thanks to some reality shows.
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
VSAT would have been a good pick if Viasat 2 wouldn’t have been a flop.

I’ve learned my lesson. I’m not a professional investor. I’m sticking with mutual funds. I am in a similar fund through my 401k as well. Each fund averages 14% a year. That’s good enough for me.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Good luck with 14% being sustained.

My portfolio is high risk and even them I think I am averaging around 7% over its lifetime. Granted, the last few years have been 14% or so, but as long as you have good, steady growth that is what counts.

OR.... just follow Michael J. Fox's route in Secret to My Success.
Photo of GabeU

GabeU, Champion

  • 1992 Posts
  • 1214 Reply Likes
Just before VS3 goes up I might invest in ViaSat.  If it ends up being what it's purported to be their stock will surely rise.  And, let's be real.  It's not very often that a satellite has a failure like the VS2 did.  That was an oddity.  Chances are very good that the VS3 will be what they're saying.  
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
That’s 14% over the life of the fund. I made something like 35% in 2017. Last year wasn’t so good but my investments are recovering.
Photo of Stephen Rice

Stephen Rice, Champion

  • 2757 Posts
  • 1435 Reply Likes
My mistake. Average return for FOCPX is 13.53% for the life of the fund.
Photo of VeteranSatUser

VeteranSatUser, Champion

  • 5133 Posts
  • 3175 Reply Likes
Still pretty good.

I looked this morning and I have averaged about 13.8% over the last 10 years. So yea. The first part of this century was rough!!!
Photo of Terry Hill

Terry Hill

  • 184 Posts
  • 62 Reply Likes
Last test I will post just wanted to show what Liberty has to offer now. Free zone was fine then after 6 boom slow, can't be congested since free time was showing 14mbps.
Photo of Casual Observer

Casual Observer

  • 422 Posts
  • 436 Reply Likes
Yeah, but it looks like you're getting a 43% return on your investment ;)

But seriously, is that on Liberty Pass? Regardless I'd call in and let them take a look and come up with an explanation.