Exede's new modem/router

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Recently switched to exede's unlimited plan mainly cause it was cheaper than the 150 but I'm really not liking their router. So come to find out I'm pretty much limited to 4 devices!? Do these people not know that pretty much everything has WiFi now?! Only complaining cause I struggled all weekend with one device to connect to the internet/router. Any work arounds for using a different router? Super annoying to run around my house to turn off WiFi devices so I can do something else.
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Yes there us a work around. I don't have one personally but others can chime in. Use the router of your choice and bypass the built-in router. You will be better off in the long run.
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Oh thank god! Thanks Homer, ill see if any can help me out with that.
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Should ask, do you have the newest modem (shaped like a triangle) or the older modem (which stands up)?
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Got our system put in the end of December, the stand up modem. We also use it for a backup furnace, it stays hot.
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Yep. That would be the older modem with built-in wifi. Known to have some issues, one of which is to get very, very warm.
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That seems to be what it does best.
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It doesn't have the best wifi either. You would he good to use a more robust router like you are trying to do.
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Homer helps a lot of people out.
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Yeah kinda sucks cause when I first talked to tech support I couldn't use a different router and just took their word for it but I should of listened to my inner nerd in the first place.
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Somebody will post the instructions on how to turn off the Viasat router and use your own router.
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Could definitely use some guidance.
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If you search this forum there are instructions on how it can be done. I just am not very good at finding stuff on here as the old forum. Too much Duff's beer I guess.
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I'm pretty sure that the moderators have posted those instructions on here before. Maybe they will post that link again!
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I did search around quite a bit but only found one and it was pretty old so I don't know how reliable it was. Even the guy who posted it said he wouldn't recommend doing it this way.
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I found this post from exede Alex.

It is possible to disable the WiFi antenna transmission using the following steps:
1.       Navigate to the router configuration pages located at 192.168.100.1.

2.       From the heading selection menu, navigate to Wi-Fi Settings and choose “Advanced Settings”.

3.       If you’re running 2.4 GHZ network, under the title heading “2.4 GHz Wireless Network” find the option titled “Network Mode”.  Note that there is a separate configuration option directly above which is also titled “Network Mode” 

4.       From the option menu, change the entry to “Disabled” (it is typically set to “Mixed” but may also be set to Wireless-B/G OnlyWireless-B OnlyWireless-G Only, or Wireless-N Only).  This disables the Wi-Fi antenna transmissions altogether. 
https://help.viasat.com/articles/General/How-to-disable-the-router-signal-on-the-WiFi-Modem
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Yes, it's possible to extend your home network by attaching your third party router's WAN (Internet) port  to one of the 4 LAN ports on your Exede/Viasat WiFi modem/router and many do it for a variety of reasons including better WiFi coverage or better router features (e.g. traffic monitoring and analysis features). Technically, you don't even have to disable the Exede/Viasat WiFi but most do as a matter or practicality to ensure all internet access is going through their router having access through the Viasat device.

You can typically configure your router as either a router or an access point - but most want the full router capabilities and that can be as simple as connecting your router's WAN port to one of the Viasat LAN ports - it really depends on your router's default LAN and DHCP settings. Some routers default to the same ranges as those of the Viasat device causing conflicts. So it's first necessary to explore what the default settings are on each. Some other potential conflicts might include SSID and Domain Name.

There's a discussion covering the specifics need for a particular ASUS model (and in general most Asus models) over at the following link that can serve as a general guideline.

https://community.viasat.com/viasat/topics/asus-ac-3200-router-setup-behind-exede-modem-router

Start at about midway with GWalk's screen captures after the drift off topic due to questions spanning mulitple threads ;)

So as to appease one poster who feels this should include a disclaimer - YMMV and Jim16 will be around shortly to provide the full list of disclaimers ;) Nevermind - the full list of disclaimers can be found at:

https://community.viasat.com/viasat/topics/is-there-an-easy-way-to-bypass-the-wireless-on-the-viasat...

Are there some risks involved? Sure, but if you want to run with the big dogs you've got to get off the porch sometime. You can do all of this without changing anything on your Viasat router to have a fallback position and once working disable the Viasat WiFi when all potential conflicts are resolved. So yeah, always have a fallback position if needed. It's common practice for those frustrated by the Viasat router's overly basic functionality and in a larger sense of networking in general it's common practice to simply extend a network for any purpose you might imagine in this manner. Just don't ask Viasat to support any device's whether router. laptop, computer, smartphone, etc. that don't have their branding on it.
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To the op there is no limit of 4 devices on the ViaSat router. I don’t know what the limit is, but I’ve run 6 devices on the WiFi without issue.
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This screen capture from another thread suggests, however, that there is a way to limit the number of users (apparently the max number IP addresses served by the DHCP server), so perhaps worth checking also:

 
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Good catch. Most likely a setting has been changed.
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I would like to piggy back on this thread.

I would love to know from a variety of areas/beams what your experience has been when comparing speeds when connected directly to modem vs connected via wifi.

So far I get roughly double the speed direct vs built in wifi.
Not just my account but have seen with others too.
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The built in router gets a bad rap on these forums. Maybe deservedly at first. My router is fine on both range and speed. It also does not serve as a secondary heater. Some will say Speedtest is not accurate for satellite, but it should be fairly consistent when measuring between wired and wireless on the same network. I experience very little differences between the two. The nature of satellite internet makes it hard to compare because it is constantly fluctuating. Side by side tests that I have done have been fairly consistent between the two connection types. Wireless by nature should be slightly less.
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Wow I don't think I've ever got so much help from a forum post before this is truly amazing. Thank you all so much! I'll test it out this weekend and see how it goes.

The issue I was having was very low bandwidth (56kbps) connection would constantly drop then connection to WiFi either couldn't be found or would connect with no internet. Only my cell phone was affected. I think it's actually been happening for awhile be never on a device I was using. I got frustrated and started disabling WiFi connections as I thought it was just weather/bandwidth hogging from the wife's brother. Still no changes then I changed the range from 2.4 to 5 and low and behold started working again. Hour later wife's brother has same issue I was having. Changed back to 2.4 and he had connection again and everything but the PlayStation seemed to work but I read PlayStation Network was also down so that could of been it. All in all 7-8 WiFi devices connected but probably only 4-5 lightly using the internet. Pretty sure I was using stock settings on the WiFi .
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You can get a repeater to extend the range AND connect more devices that way. I have extended antennas on my router AND a repeater. The 5G network range isn't as good as 2.4G, so a repeater is a must if you have to go a good distance with 5G.

Repeater has worked great for me. Now how it would work with the Viasat built-in router I can not say.
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Yeah but the range never been an issue it's a small cabin. Just weird connection issue..
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Any recommendations on a range extender? I purchased a Netgear extender but I could not get it to work. I am in a 1300 sq ft home and need to get signal to the other side of my home. Thank you in advance!
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What router are you using? The built- In Viasat router or a third party router?