Does the satellite industry have antenna deficit disorder?

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Those waiting for the Constellations to save the day.....


https://spacenews.com/does-the-satellite-industry-have-antenna-deficit-disorder/
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The satelite internet industry has amazing internet download speeds. I'll let you figure out the abreviation for that.
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Interesting article.  I think it's going to take a bit longer than they had originally planned for any of these LEO systems to become available to the general public.  
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At least 2 years or more from now. spacex anyway.
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Don't need it. Viasat 3 is coming soon.
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The considerably reduced latency will be an advantage for some.  Gamers, of course, but others, as well. 

I know that, unless they're offering substantially higher data threshholds, I'll pretty much be sticking with what I have as long as the speed is still decent.  
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That's the good thing about Viasat. As long as you don't use up your priority data, you get to enjoy A.I.D.S.
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you get to enjoy A.I.D.S.
You're going to have to enlighten me.  I'm relatively sure you don't mean the disease, and there are about three dozen other terms that use this abbreviation.  

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The satelite internet industry has amazing internet download speeds, also known as A.I.D.S.
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Stephen, Viasat 3 will be as revolutionary for residential customers as Viasat 2. Meaning not much.
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Viasat 3 is going to consist of more than one bird. Should one bird get sick, another will be there to eat the carcass and take it's place. Revolutionary!

Meanwhile, I'll still be rocking and rolling on Viasat 1 with my Liberty 12 plan.
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Ah, that abbreviation was one that I didn't find.  :) 
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Ah, that abbreviation was one that I didn't find.  :) 
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I'll probably be staying on Viasat 1 as well with my Freedom Plan and continued slow speeds. Meanwhile, one of my co-workers in town just had her Charter account upgraded to 100 Mbps at no extra charge.
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That Charter is pretty amazing. My parents get internet from them and get either 100 or 200 mbps, I honestly don't know how fast, for $60 a month.

It's a good deal but it would be silly to come on here and complain that Viasat can't offer the same speeds for $60. Different technologies and different infrastructure involved.
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Yeah. My co-worker pays $47 per month for Charter and says it works great. But she also complains about noisy neighbors and traffic, which I don't have to worry about.
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The main issue with starlink is really Elon Musk and his twitter account. They have an advantage over every satellite provider. During a spacex rocket test a satelite launch would be cost neutral. Lower Latency, higher speeds, and lower prices. The only thing viasat has in comparison in it's plans are MEO's and they are not being developed yet. Hughes, Last I checked, was investing in Oneweb.
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The main issue with starlink is really Elon Musk and his twitter account. They have an advantage over every satellite provider. During a spacex rocket test a satelite launch would be cost neutral. Lower Latency, higher speeds, and lower prices. The only thing viasat has in comparison in it's plans are MEO's and they are not being developed yet. Hughes, Last I checked, was investing in Oneweb.
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You would think after years of this crappy forum that the devs would have fixed the problem with double posts.
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You would think after years of this crappy forum that the devs would have fixed the problem with double posts.
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Lol
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Hamburger helper
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Once in a while I'll get lucky that a double post will have the second one posting one second after the first, which enables me to delete the second one.  If they post during the same second, though, it's a no go.  :(  

GetSat truly does need to work on the issue, especially when you consider how big they are when it comes to forums.  
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The old forum prevented double posts!
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DirecTV owner AT&T says it’s done buying satellites

https://spacenews.com/directv-owner-att-says-its-done-buying-satellites/

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Just another reason to hate what AT&T has done to DirecTV.   

Unless the industry makes HUGE advances in two way satellite communications, or ground based high speed internet is expanded to reach the "rest of us", we'll be left behind, once again.  SMH.  
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Not sure I see that happening. There are millions of consumers that have no option for TV but satellite.
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I deserted broadcast tv years ago, and haven't looked back. They can do what they want with that vast wasteland.  Cop shows had degraded to "How can we abuse/kill a man, woman or child this week?" and the comedians aren't especially funny. I get the news via feeds on the internet. It's just a huge waste of one's time for too many...
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I couldnt even watch broadcast TV with an antenna if I wanted too. I live too far away from an HD signal. But broadcast TV shows are rubbish anyhow after watching content from AMC, HBO, Amazon, Netflix, etc.

I could probably do without satellite TV except for sports, and that is the bulk of my content.
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GabeU - Just another reason to hate what AT&T has done to DirecTV.

In earlier days, before DBS industry, satellite TV (via BUDs: big ugly dish) was mainly for rural folks.  Then, TV broadcasters could not encrypt their transmissions, but when DBS industry came 'online,' there was a change.  With time, DISH and Direc essentially eliminated TVRO usage due mostly to "free install/dishes" campaigns, and fewer TVRO programming choices as time marched onward. 

Both of these DBS operators want to ditch DBS, and stream video now.  I believe its a no brainer for bean-counters since those without good broadband represent a smaller niche market these days.

Currently, there is only one TVRO subscription service, but realistically, a 12' BUD should be used, which means most rural folks can't afford it and equipment costs.  So the upshot here is rural TVRO folks got shafted twice by DBS industry, FCC let the free market decide format/encryption transmissions, and TVRO consumers lost the ability to watch broadcast quality feeds FTA.
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That happened fast!

"Wyler claims breakthrough in low-cost antenna for OneWeb, other satellite systems"

https://spacenews.com/wyler-claims-breakthrough-in-low-cost-antenna-for-oneweb-other-satellite-syste...

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Hey... speak of the devil your ears must have been ringing.
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I just read about the new network management policy.  VS2 must have put a much bigger hurt on them then we thought.
The world has come to an end.....Deku is pissed off at Viasat.
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That just leaves Stephen.

There can be only one...
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I'm not pissed at Viasat yet. My Freedom plan doesn't seem to be affected.
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Wyler?  I thought they made faux Kool Aid.  LOL.  
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The drought of commercial GEO satellite orders continued into 2018. Only five large commercial GEO communications satellites were ordered last year, down from the already-low seven ordered in 2017. Several orders expected in 2018 did not materialize, like a third Viasat-3 satellite by ViaSat, and one satellite ordered early in 2018, Amos-8, was later canceled. Manufacturers continue to vie for fewer such contracts as satellite operators hold off buying new spacecraft as they assess high-throughput technology and small-satellite constellations. [SpaceNews]