Does Exede allow you to renew/release your ip or is it static? I

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Does Exede allow you to renew/release your ip or is it static? I ask since a business I use requires a geo-location check and the ip I have now returns everything from California to New York from a google location search. Most do return Florida, which is correct though.
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You can release and renew your IP, it stays within a range but, you can do that if you need to.
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Thank you for that. Actually that is good news in that I would have a variety of ips that they could compare to whatever database/criteria/site they use. Of course from a satellite ISP any ip is going to be a toss up where it locates. 
If you would, how can I get a new IP from Exede? I am using a router so ipconfig/release and renew only changes the lan and does nothing for the wlan/public ip.
I can bypass the router but don't see how I have any control whatsoever regarding Exede ip allocation.
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You don't have control over it. Other than going to a business account, which has a persistent IP address, there isn't much you can do beyond either release/renew or power cycling modem and router. It is a dynamic IP address so will change periodically regardless (unless business account.)

If privacy is your concern, it is somewhat random as to where a trace shows your location. Mine has never shown anywhere in my state. Beyond that, you would need to use a proxy to further hide your IP address.
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privacy is not a concern in this matter. actually the reverse, i.e. i want them to know where i am as precisely as possible.
"change periodically regardless", this is exactly what I should have asked to begin with. I did power recycle but it did not change ip's but as long as I now know with certainty the ip is in fact dynamic i'm fine with that. ultimately Exede will pump out a different ip so that is about the most i can expect.
Thank you for the help and monitoring the board to help others. I am curious if the deciding factor is time/power recycling/both that decides when a new ip is issued? I don't want to be at the modem recycling the power if there is no point. 
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Time and, a power cycle of the modem are the big two factors, David. You will never get accurate location service with satellite internet providers. Depending on which site I ask, it thinks I am in Cheyenne, WY, Whicita, KS or, Tupelo, MS. I reside in none of the above - closest of those is 300 miles away.

Really, there is no point with satellite internet, even with the persistent IP address I have. You simply have to change the zip code or, location on sites that need it as you visit them.
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Hi David,   Bev has given you great information about the IP addresses for Exede. Here is some general information.    http://help.exede.net/articles/General/What-s-an-IP-address-and-do-I-need-a-static-or-persistent-one.
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You know, I had not run across the "PERSISTENT OR STICKY DYNAMIC IP ADDRESS" info before and that had occurred to me before the article pointed it out Exede does precisely that. For my purpose whether I have a static or any other version of IP all Satellite Provider IPs will return all over the place:
IP2Location
ipinfo.io
EurekAPI
DB-IP
MaxMind 
The above location databases/services all return a different location which was my difficulty and there is not a thing that can change that. It's not a problem and I've worked it out in my specific issue but it is interesting how at least 5 separate companies all return different locations. Not that it matters but I find that fascinating how apparently difficult it is for at least the public consumption version some don't even have the state right. Quite curious. 
None of this is Exede's fault at all. Actually for our part, my family, living in a rural area, Exede is the best option by far. Thank you guys for the excellent service.
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Explained in greater detail here:

https://www.lifewire.com/does-ip-address-geolocation-really-work-818154

But many of those databases you mention, base their information on and gather it  from web site registrations (and presumably logins to those sites you're registered for). As your IP address changes (or someone else for that matter) and you login, the database location changes to yours from someone else's.

Those databases would be more accurate in Bev's case with a static IP address on a business plan.

IP address will only accurately reflect the location of the ISP that the range has been assigned to.

P.S. All bets are off, however, if you share your location via a device's GPS.
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There I went making assumptions based on just enough information to allow me to arrive at the wrong location. Out of curiosity and hobby some years back I created my (Hillary Style) email and DNS server in my home. I learned plenty, one of which that doesn't really work for countless reasons at a residential IP but I never did run down the various ip blocks etc. The assumed part is where law enforcement is portrayed as obtaining an ip and driving right up to your door. They clearly use a different app, one not universally available.

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After completing the article you kindly provided I get how specific locations are obtained, i.e. "work directly with Internet Service Providers (ISPs)". That is the where the rubber meets the road. No doubt in the case (The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) ) for instance where some barter system in used to monetize their efforts a good majority of ISPs gladly roll over, at least so it seems since that issue is not public safety or patriotism not being the rally point.
Whatever the case, excellent article and I had it wrong about IP tracing and I considered myself fairly well versed on "BIND...". Guess not as much as I thought. Closer now. Thank you.
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It's not much better with our AT&T phones. It's about half and half which sites think we're in Houston or Dallas. We're in neither, about 100 miles from Houston and 200 from Dallas.