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Best thing that happened this month.  Just finished a communication with the FCC questioning why cable company's don't get Obama funding for expansion into rural areas because satellite internet not reliable and really sucks and so does it's outrages prices for limited use.
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Don Anderson Sr.

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Yeah, one or my state reps gets it, He lives not far form me and, has Exede as well but, like he says, most rural people here can't afford the cost when, for 99% of work from home option are not viable over satellite and, that's what these people need to do because 20 or more miles to town is too much gas for them to afford to have a regular job. They need to get some money at home to afford to go get a regular job.

You can't do that with high latency and, not being allowed to make unlimited VIOP calls. If either were allowed, at least you could telemarket from home but, either you have Exede Voice which does not permit that much calling or, you have another VOIP which uses your bandwidth.

Any other work form home pretty much wants VPN and high speed with low latency to connect, so they don't accept people with satellite internet service.

Does no good for these people to work for 200/week take home when gas alone cost them 100/week to get to the job, then add clothing needed, repairs to the car, lunch at work and, you profit nothing, probably take a net loss for trying to go to work.

I'm fortunate to work part time from home and, have my share cropped farm so, very low food bill and, I have a spouse who works out of state, so earns a lot more that the local average income but, I'm the rare exception around here. To the rest of my family and, all of my local friends, 50.00 a month is A LOT of money to pay for internet and, they simply can't afford it. (and yes it takes that to get enough bandwidth to do anything beyond OS and AV updates and email.)

I do understand the problem, but I also understand what it takes for Exede to provide service and, add more bandwidth. I also understand why cable companies will not run cables and service areas where they might get 2 or 3 customers on the cheapest plan they offer but, still have to maintain those lines in areas that cost more just to drive to to work on.

Same reason AT&T stopped offering telephone service out here - only one house even had service and, they were low income so, a discounted price for that. The old aluminum lines gave out a few months ago and, the cost of replacing them is too much for AT&T to spend for 35.00 per month from one customer so, no more phone out here.

Same for cable internet, even if all 3 homes here had it, 90.00 per month is not going to make them any profit if they did run the cables the 20 miles from town it would take to get service to areas like this. Just no profit in it so, they won't do it.

As for expecting Obama to make them do it, yeah and it would probably work as well as ObamaCare - my health insurance went UP by 142.00 PER WEEK. I had to drop it, can't afford that. The penalty is cheaper. ObamaNet = basic dsl service for 300.00 per month. No thanks.
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Don Anderson Sr.

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Sounds like someone lives in the dark ages. (behind the times )
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That's pretty much a given for anyone who only has the satellite option - anyone who has other viable options and chose satellite... chose poorly. Given a viable alternative and being out of contract, I personally would jump ship in a heartbeat. Even if in contract, I'd do so and pay the ETF.

However, I'd be interested in seeing the text of the actual FCC response (feel free to redact any personal info) - however, don't do it if it has any classified markings or originated from a basement server in Chappaqua NY or the State Department - even the receipt of it would most definitely put my still active Top Secret security clearance in jeopardy should I choose to return to work ;)

For me extreme carelessness alone would do the trick... regardless of intent.    
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As Roseanne Roseannadanna says, never mind...

After digging into the FCC web site and the Connect America Fund it's pretty clear what the real reason is for funds being unavailable to satellite providers - they can't meet the annual roll-out schedules that the FCC requires of that funding (they meet most of the other standards established).

After all is said and done, the satellite providers will at some probably only receive per-subscriber subsidies for those having no other options. Similar to the subsidies Wildblue got under the Recovery Act (even the lot's of restrictions on subscribers to qualify for those).  
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For what it's worth, in a previous job, I worked for "Big Cable Inc" (not saying the name) and the cost of extending lines to like a RV park 0.8 miles from the service area for example was a high 6 figure job, another case saw a farm that hit 7 figures to go to one home...Fiber optics are very expensive. Unfortunately the way the cable and DSL companies see it, if the revenue isn't better than the cost of bringing service to an area they simply won't expand. Had to even tell some downtown bars and high rises just as much..not enough revenue to justify getting the service in. I guess from their perspective it makes sense even though they seem to be doing fine. 

With that said and not to sound like a old record, but the reason we constantly discuss our upcoming launch of ViaSat 2 is because I think that's going to be a bit of a game changer for our customers. Everything we have now is on our satellite but with this new one that allows for us to double our potential and bandwidth. That means bigger packages, potentially faster speeds, ect. I know a number of folks are frustrated with limitations but I think the wait will be worth it and closer to time we can announce what we will officially see. 
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I honestly am hoping this will help and I think it will for a while.  Problem is you guys said the exact same thing in regards to wildblue with exede launch.

Personally I think the new satelite will be great for a while.  Till you sell all the Bandwidth and leave consumers scraping for what little is left.  Yeah it will take time but I think it will end the same way viasat1 is now.

I sure hope im wrong though.
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Yeah, normally, I'd say faster speeds and more data for an ISP's customers isn't rocket science, so do it and, do it NOW but, in this case it IS rocket science and, NOW is not in the vocabulary when you have to build and launch satellites into orbit, then get them operational and, now and again, rockets, space shuttles and the like to blow up just when you need them. (that's what happened to delay the launch of the next Viasat satellite, a rocket they needed blew up just before the launch date so, they had to find another company for this launch.)