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Tim Spake

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So sad, typical night for me 700Kbps at 7:07PM
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Dio Brando

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hate to steal stephen's reply
What's your plan? Have you gone over your data?
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Yes, been over data for a while now. So, my expectations are not high. My plan is to wait it out and watch Netflix another time. LOL. It is getting a little better now and is still almost as good as my DSL was on most nights.
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Ah, yeah. Sorry to hear man. Hope you can manage with your current speeds.
Not much to be done when you hit your limit on VSAT...
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Well, I came to satellite knowing the issues so I will simply work around the hours of congestion. I live where there truly are no better alternatives.
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Up to normal DSL speeds now.
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Dio Brando

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Use sourceforge. I've found speedtest to be terribly biased to local cable providers.
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testmy.net is the most reliable.

Hate that Viasat advertises "unlimited" plans that are not really unlimited.  Once you go over your priority data, all bets are off. 
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Viasat’s plans are unlimited. They is no hard data cap nor is there a charge when you exceed the cap a la my Verizon cell phone plan. Yes, performance is throttled, but I had the same issue with my DSL provider. Performance was terrible during prime time and holidays, but I could use all the data I could get through just as with Viasat. No real difference.
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Viasat has always offered "unlimited" data. My complaint is how it is advertised. There are a lot of asterisks attached.
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I found the Viasat advertising and contract some of the clearest out there. Ever try to figure out a Verizon cell phone plan in advance and know what you will actually pay each month? I always have to call them and talk to someone as their published information is so cryptic that you just can’t sort it out. And the extra fees and taxes are horrendous. Satellite internet is a paragon of simplicity in comparison.
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I have found Speedtest to be quite reliable and to correlate well with the performance I am seeing. My last ISP used it and they were not a local cable provider.
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Drink some magnesium citrate and try to relax. That should help the constipation.
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I am always relaxed. Comes with semi-retirement.
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I get that all the time, exactly why I have been switching to VZ & ATT prepaid unlimited plans. I have been on Freedom 150 for quite a while, now going to cancel once I am sure about the mobile solutions I am working on. Your results are typical for me. My service was awesome for a while until they oversold my beam in 2018. But now it is barely usable. I never go over my 150 gb.
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Thankfully, the results from last night are not typical. I just ran another test this morning and it is running well. These speeds are 3.5X faster on download than my former DSL line was and 10X faster on upload. And this is with my data gone for the month.

Last evening’s results were still about the same as my DSL was during the same time period and without the constant disconnects. The DSL disconnects were more annoying than was the slow speed. So, thus far the satellite is meeting my expectations. I knew I was a heavy data user, probably 150 gigs per month. Viasat has no plan in my area even close to that so I knew I would spend at least half the month on the “Liberty pass.” I knew about the latency inherent in geosynchronous satellite systems (I am a retired EE) and I knew about the weather issues and such, my only hope was that satellite at its worst would only be a little worse than DSL and would be so only for short periods of time.

So far, my expectations have been not only met, but exceeded. I think I have had only 3-4 outright losses of signal in the 23 or so days I have had the service. DSL would disconnect that many times in ONE HOUR many evenings in the 6-10 PM time window. And even the really slow performance last night was about what I saw with DSL on its bad nights, in between disconnects that is.

Would I like a reliable cable or fiber connection? Absolutely!! And I will have one in a few years, but for now, satellite is filling an important gap for me and doing so at the levels of performance that Viasat stated in their advertising. So, I really see little to complain about at present.

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With only 2 bars and a Mifi 8800L
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@Kay Doggett

FWIW - Reported Issues: Verizon Prepaid Unlimited Jetpack Plans Acting Wonky
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Mine's still better than what I had. I also have an ATT iPad unlimited plan. $29.99/30 days prepaid. I put the sim card in a Netgear LB 1120 with a router. So I just switch if I have issues with one or the other.
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That is why I don't have Verizon now, to many times I had to reset my jetpack and the speeds would be good one moment to having nothing and I mean 100mbps to 0mbps. Heck I would do a reset then 5 min it would drop again so I gave up on that mess. 
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@Hill

6620L VZW Jetpack has had two software updates recently.  The article cited above explains several reasons.  I'm not having an issue so far, but its connected to an USB port on an old router, which is "stimulating" it.  In Jetpack's config menu, there are timers that may need to be adjusted, like Sleep and Shutdown.  I'm using default settings, and even when computer is shut-down nitely, I can reconnect via WiFi...but again, this router is "stimulating" this Jetpack; Jetpack thinks its tethered, but its not.
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Thanks Kay! Your post probably answered a question I had if a signal booster would help my speed on a Verizon Jetpack. I get 1-3 bars, but have never hit over 15mps, and usually am around 3-5 mbs. So it appears a stronger signal does not equate to faster speeds. Still way better than VIASAT for me as it never drops even in bad weather and VIASAT dropped up to a dozen times a day even during good weather, sometimes up to a few hours at a time.
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Quality of signal is more important than strength of signal. It's possible to have a strong signal with poor quality and vice versa.

https://www.pocketables.com/2013/09/why-signal-strength-doesnt-equate-to-data-speed.html   

I had poor Viasat signal strength all day yesterday but it was performing as expected - certainly not 61 Mbps but that would buy me nothing anyway.
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As Old Labs said, it is quality not strength. The key metric is typically SNR. Adding a booster will amplify the noise (and typically add a little noise of its own) often not making the connection any faster. It is like having a phone call on a speakerphone that is full of static. Turning up the volume of the speakerphone does not get rid of the static. It makes it louder along with the voice you are trying to hear. And can add in speaker distortion which makes things even worst.

An omnidirectional cell signal booster/amplifier is not likely to help much. The reason being that the signal comes from only one direction, but the noise can come from any direction and thus you tend to amplify as much or more noise than signal. The only way to address the problem is with a highly directional antenna. If you get a booster that comes with a directional antenna and you can aim it at the cell tower, that can make a tremendous difference as you now are seeing only the signal and noise coming from the same direction as the signal, but are ignoring the noise from the other directions.
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Thanks Voyager, I might just sit tight and live with what I have, no need to spend $1,000 + the labor for something that might not help. I have low needs and expectations, and since my VIASAT I just dumped was the bottom of the barrel the bar was set real low here. The only data usage I need over and above the basic internet surfing is streaming internet radio and it looks like 64-128k speed is good enough for that. Radio station clarity here varies from day to day as either there is a lot of noise and or the signals are weak. There are a lot of stations I am less than 30 miles from and can't receive. Where I am at is pretty flat but heavily wooded. I am 3 miles from a cell tower in Central Virginia.
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My Viasat was ok for several years but with the lack of other options in this area of Upstate SC (85% of homes have no broadband available) I was dealing with it. I work from home so always made sure I had a VZ aircard for a backup in the case of bad weather. I started with the Liberty 12 and went up to Liberty 50 and then Freedom 150, but lately it has been literally terrrible speeds. And I found myself having to use up all my VZ data just to work. With all the announcements about the Viasat-2 and every 10 minutes on TV there is a commercial here, I think it has been oversold in this beam.  But there is nothing here but satellite or mobile. So when I saw the new prepaid VZ jetpack plan, I switched one of my postpaid accounts for the prepaid. The prepaid is more $ but does not throttle at 15 gb. On Saturday, I changed my Viasat plan back to the Liberty 12 (oh how I hated to give up that Freedom 150!) but it is now my backup instead of my primary. They advertized unlimited here for a while but not any more. But I hung onto the Freedom 150. Now they only offer the Liberty 12, 25 & 50 - not even the boost 25 mbps plans! Looks like a sure sign the beam has been over sold to me.
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When the new mifi device comes out this spring, I might look into this more and give it a try.

Just not sure about using it as my primary internet yet.
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If I had a business or other real-time need, I would want a backup to satellite also. My backup is drive a 1/2 mile to church and use their Spectrum cable.
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My cellular carrier just go bought out, so once that deal is final, I might get better service at home. I'd look into a hotspot for backup if that happens. Not dropping Viasat as my primary internet though.
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Kay, sounds like the same over selling happened here, not only frequent TV commercials on broadcast TV during prime time, there are signs all over the road side. In some areas there are more "Super fast internet" signs than houses. I would be curious as to how the Hughes Net service is here as they probably advertise 1/10 of what VIASAT does on TV and the dealers are not putting up road side signs.

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This is a mostly weekend lake community and we are one of a half dozen or so here full time. My neighbors across the street have Hughes net and are always complaining. But a guy two doors down got the last DSL port (no more available now for years) and he is always bragging about that. There is an RV park down the road (65+ sites and pretty full that sells annual sites) and I know several that went with Viasat after I did. But there are signs on every corner and commercials on every channel. I signed up for the boost 25 a couple years ago and it was good for a while, but lately I don't even get 1-2 Mbps. That with the latency just kills my work day. I have never stopped searching for better alternatives.
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Good luck in search. Hopefully a new technology will be available soon. How is cell phone service in that area? You might look into a hotspot from phone as a back up
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You mean congested right? Hopefully.

I'm seeing a few of these today. I'm not sure what was going on last night but it seems to have hit a few people on here but at least in your case it looks like you've improved.

As always on these type of things calling in at 855-463-9333 or using our app is probably the quickest way to get assistance. 
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Either way we've got him covered ;)

I'd kill two gallons of Miralax and schedule a visit to the gastroenterologist at the same time - BOHICA.
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I didn’t call as I assumed it was a temporary issue. Yes, it was congestion, but that sounds so pedestrian compared to constitpated.