Can you use Netflix with Exede or subscribe to a tv channel such as cbs?

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Hi Barbara you can use Netflix with our service, it does use up your data depending on how long you are using it. It is something I recommend you watch during your late night free zone, then you do not have to worry about how much data you are using. If you have anymore questions or concerns please send me an email at exedelistens@viasat.com and I will be happy to assist! =) 
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It kinda sucks to pay for this and you can't really use Netflix or anything. The world is is using Netflix and  such these days. Not so much movie stores, dvds and blue-rays. I'm pretty sure those won't be around much longer.
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Hi Barbara,

I would also suggest you go to your Netflix account and adjust the "Playback Settings" www.netflix.com/YourAccount

They offer a high, medium, and low or auto, "Data Usage per Screen” as to the playback download and watching quality.

This means, an example movie that might use 1 to 1.5 GB per hour, at the HD setting, will only use 0.7 GB on medium, or 0.3 GB on the low setting.

Quite a difference in bandwidth savings if you were to watch several movies a month.

Hope it helps.

Everett

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I'm pretty sure if you're using Windows you can just use the scheduler to run and stop a program from running at a certain time. I have one running at 12:00 am for the start of the LNFZ, but it doesn't run that long so I have never tried to have it turn off, too.
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Thank you for the answers regarding PlayLater. It would seem that it holds little value for us. We already are DirectTV subscribers, and record movies, programs from it to our DVD recorder (that's DVD--not DVR), which we can do at any time of the day or night without any charge.
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I downloaded a freeware called Mouse Recorder Pro 2. It comes with a calendar feature.
I started PlayLater and set six videos to record. I then canceled them one at a time (which left the restart and delete buttons)
I then recorded my mouse clicks 'restarting' each video with the Mouse Recorder. I saved the recorder file and scheduled it with the calendar for midnight.
Before bed, I choose up to six (I modified the six show file to be a five, four, three, two, and one show file with the Mouse Recorder Pro's Advanced Editor) shows and make PlayLater full screen, schedule the mouse clicks for 11:59 pm and leave my computer awake, with the screen off. Full screen ensures the buttons are always in the same place for the mouse clicks.
I took about an hour to make the click files perfect, and it sometimes messes up show #6, but it works pretty well.
I set up Windows Task Scheduler to force shutdown my computer at 5 am, preventing recordings from happening into my 'not free' time.
It seems a little long and complicated, but it wasn't that hard, it just took a few tries to get it right. Now it takes just a few minutes each night and we are getting quite the collections of shows we've been wanting to watch.
It's kinda round-about but we are getting a good collection of shows to watch at night. Roku supports a PlayOn channel, so it streams the PlayLater shows from the computer to the Roku via the wireless network (not the internet, just the router)
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Hi Jennifer,
Thanks for the info. I use PlayLater a lot myself, but I will check out your suggestions. I have just been starting the movie download at 12, and then hope they finish be 5 am.

Thanks again and welcome to the forum.
Everett
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NEW UPDATE ON PLAYLATER
Playlater/playon version 4 has now added an off-time queue meaning that playlater now works perfectly for anyone who wishes to use their free zone to download movies without staying up. Go to https://www.playon.tv/download to
start being able to finally watch netflix.
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Does anyone know how to set a Roku to only stream at lower quality?  Or do you have to do it to individual services?  I wouldn't dare set down the Netflix as my kids watch it at college so for  now I'll just have to do without and let them use it. :P
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I have a roku 2 and have had to set to lower quality on each channel I use...mostly I use amazon instant video and netflix--when watching on my tv with roku,had to go to their online sites (as everett described above about netflix) to make sure I had the quality I wanted and not more, but when I stream to my pc (without roku) I can adjust the quality and pick HD vs SD at the bottom of the screen by clicking on settings button.
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Jacqueline, No need for you to "do without and let them use it."  Netflix has a 2 screen option which allows you to stream and the kids too! As for the lower quality, its not exactly low quality in a inferior sense but standard definition as opposed to high definition. Unless you are watching on a very large screen, the difference is imperceptible. So, go change those account settings and add another screen option so you can enjoy Netflix, too.
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Hi Jacqueline,
I do not have personal experience, but I would bet there is a way in the admin settings for each registered user.

Also, for in home use, there are routers than can be set to limits for each connection "computer or other devices" to control bandwidth and or data. This would include wireless routers also.

Hope it helps.
Everett
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Thanks for the post Everette. I am not too Roku savvy either but good suggestion. (:
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Thank you Everett,  I will check into that.  I guess I don't have the Roku here anyway, lol.  I forgot I had taken to our place up north to watch Netflix up there when I am up there.  :P  
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NBC and CBS and sometimes ABC news programs are free to watch after last airing is USA. Most CBS and NBC series are the same. Only, ABC (so far) requires you to belong to a Major cable/satellite TV service. But (most) regular network programs/series only keep the last 5 episodes available. But, some of the more popular programs are on youtube; albeit, at a much lower quality.
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There is no way you will be able to watch a movie on your exede account.. ever. sorry ... but that's the plain and very simple truth.. I don't care what exede tells you. I can't even watch a 3 minute youtube video without going over my data plan allowance 8 days before times up... 
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MP3 Rocket Pro and Freemake are two freeware programs that will let you download youtube and a number of other videos/mp3s to your computer. Most you don't have to play first. This will save your data usage....where the 12Mbps helps. You can move them to an external drive later if your HD is limited space. Downloading to a USB 2.0 drive first will negate that DL speed advantage.
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How would you know if you don't have to play them first? I shy away from anything youtube even the instant Play Now posts on facebook page has been changed to Non-instant...to conserve data. But as far at TV streaming I still think that is still out of our realm. 
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You can watch a movie with Exede. It's just your choice on HOW to use your data. Streaming video 'costs' about 1 GB per hour. If you want to use 2 GB of your data, then go for it. We have the highest Exede plan and usually watch 1 movie a week. 2x4 = 8 GB. Fine by me when we have 25 per month. We heavily utilize the 'free zone' and my PlayLater and mouse-click file plan (see below for a detailed description)

If your are going over your data from playing a 3 minute video with 8 days to go, then either: you have something eating your data up all day long, or someone in your house is using up your data.  A 3-minute YouTube video would cost roughly 50 MB. (Assuming 1 GB/hour of data used) We had 10 GB for several years before changing to the 25 plan.  It was a rare month we ran out. Using the data usage tools to monitor and 'budget' your data is key when you have this kind of internet.
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I not only stream two Netflix screens at the same, but the kids can watch Youtube during the same time frame. My speed has always averaged a consistent 14-19mbps here in the sunny south. Mind you, Netflix and Youtube are both set on standard definition but none of the screens are larger than 40 inches so it doesn't matter anyway. Never could understand why anyone would be concerned about high definition unless they were viewing on a really large screen. So, you may not be able to watch either of those but speak for yourself, because I sure can.
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While it's impractical in many cases to stream movies on limited plans, keep an eye on Aterlo Networks, Inc. (Google and/or Bing are your friends). If successful, both the LNFZ and EBFZ are going to become a lot more congested for Exede users barring any legal challenges to what they're doing.

Why do I sense this may end badly with the demise of the LNFZ and EBFZ with simply  increased caps being the unintended consequence? ;)  
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Everette: I'm no expert and only questioning for curiosity not correctness. I thought 'Time" was more important than size. Example: If it takes me 30 min to download a program at 4MBs and 4 mins at 12MBs...I'm saving on data usage...right? If what your saying is watching a 1 hour movie at a lower quality will yield less data usage. Or am I way off base? Streaming is different than data?

Also, how is your latency and jitter ? I get 'choppy' movies because of this F grade I get with megapath's speedplus.

Thanks Ricky P.

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Time is relative.

Specifically the rate at which data is transmitted affects the quality of playback (not the quality of the movie itself), a low rate of transfer can cause lag or jitter as it's often called.

I think what Everett (but I'm not Everett nor do I play him on the internet) is referring to is the quality of the video itself, standard definition (480p) vs high definition (720P, 1080p). The same movie in recorded in SD requires less data than the same movie recorded in HD. The same movie recorded in HD (720p) requires less data than the same movie recorded in HD (1080p). Those of us whose eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be due to age frequently can't tell the difference between HD 720P vs HD 1080P, although the difference between SD and HD is readily apparent.

Watching the same one hour movie in 720P vs 1080P consumes less data and requires lower transmission rate to view/stream it smoothly.

Streaming is simply the manner in which that data is transferred. Think of it in terms of a hose. Assuming you're not in Buffalo or subfreezing weather, take your hose, attach it to your outdoor faucet and stretch it out straight across your lawn (also assuming it's not a pocket hose). Go back to the faucet, turn it on and note the delay before the water starts flowing out the end - the longer the hose the longer the delay. That's the inherent latency governed by physics (hose length and water pressure in this case - distance to satellite and speed of light in the case of Exede).

Now introduce some congestion into the experiment - go three quarters of the way out, tame the beast that's probably thrashing about wildly, bend the hose in half and the water flowing out the end will eventually trickle to a stop. Relieve the pressure of the bend, and eventually the flow will return to normal. Any congestion along the path the movie is taking to your device has an analogous effect. Any throttling imposed by the streamer of the movie to balance loads on their servers can have similar effects.       

I was going to try megapath's speedplus, but on arriving there noticed it's Java based. Typically, for satellite users, Java based speed tests are inaccurate for a variety of technical reasons that I won't get in to.

Testmy.net generally yields more accurate results with one caveat: explicitly choose your download and upload sizes rather than automatic settings (although it does a good job of ensuring it has an accurate sample size in most cases). The typical recommendation is to choose a download size of 12MB or greater, and an upload size of 3 MB or greater although these vary. The reason for choosing larger sizes is to overcome the inherent latency of satellite transmissions, which negatively skews the results with smaller sizes.

And of course, do be aware that these speed tests are consuming your data  and to anyone actually trying this experiment remember to turn the faucet off ;)

Those really interested in streaming media should checkout https://www.aterlo.com/ and it's progress. Unfortunately, heavy adoption of this innovation will likely follow the law of unintended consequences eventually rendering the LNFZ and EBFZ useless.

Right now it's in beta but I think it's safe to say it won't be free on release to the public and will require a more robust router (wouldn't be surprise if they offer pre-configured routers for sale - I'm guessing they're simply turning your router into the equivalent of a DVR).  
   
As touched upon by Everett, those new to satellite internet should forget what they know about traditional ISPs when moving to satellite - some re-education and greater knowledge is needed to overcome its limitations (but those are good things).   
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Hi Lab Rescuer, Thank you for all of this helpful information and going over the information posted by Everett.=) 
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If you can be positive as to when your LNFZ starts, you might be able to stream video. Most of us don't really know when LNFZ starts and use the entire monthly bandwidth in one hour or so. Then you will be running slowly for the rest of the month.
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Hi Kenneth,
Several post have mentioned this issue and Kimberly said they "Exede tech's" are working on it.

I go by the clock for my timezone and have not been burned yet. And I would think Exede would make any time mix ups right with you if it's their problem with their tracking/ timing software.

If they can see a spike in data usage after 12:01 am, but the gig's hit your regular hours allotment of Gig's, they should make it right and reimburse you.

I do hope they find a fix or way of notification for the LNFZ time start and finish. But I do not think Exede is out to blatantly burn up anyone's Gig's. If there are issues with your timezone and the overlap of the beam that serves your area, they should account for it some how.

I hope they resolve any issues you might have. Just ask for help from the Exede rep's. They do listen and respond.
Everett
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Hey Kenneth, the issues with the LNFZ are proving to differ case by case. Can you email me your information to exedelistens@viasat.com? I will see to it that we look into your issues as well. Thanks.
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I got the impression from the Exede website that I could download a download scheduler and then tell it to download something from Netflix after midnight.  Anybody?  Exede told me they didn't know what I was talking about.
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Michelle,

You might want to take a look at Aterlo Nightshift or PlayLater:

https://www.aterlo.com/

http://www.playon.tv/playlater/
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Hi Old Labs, Thank you for sharing those helpful links. Those will surely benefit all users that enjoy watching NetFlix. 
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Thanks OLD LABS for that demo of the hose AND the graphic you supplied in my more recent posts. I am really understanding more about Latency and Jitter and even ping.
I will try the other test for a more 'accurate' test.
However, as you said, accuracy is not the 'real' problem. How do we get around this? 
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I'm a novice and late to the game, but if I make exclusive use of the midnight-to-0500 time slot for recording, my Exede bandwidth monthly governor will not be affected, right?  I have subscriptions to Netflix and Hulu already, but do I need some special device to record, or do I do it on my plenty-of-capacity laptop hard drive, or to an external port such as a memory stick?  I have no idea how much a standard definition movie takes from a bandwidth standpoint, but I think it's less than 1GB.  Does that mean one of my 32GB memory sticks would suffice for recording an average movie?   I'd hate to stay up till midnight every night to set up the recording process.  I wonder if there is a way to time the execution of the recording.  I would like to be able to preset it to do 3 movies in a row potentially.  Am I way off base with this notion? 
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To the best of my knowledge, PlayLater does not have a scheduling feature but there are a few people here who use it and can be more specific. Supposedly a scheduling feature is in the works. PlayLater leverages your computer. 

Aterlo NightShift does allow scheduling - however, has specific hardware support requirements and leverages your router. At the same time it would appear NightShift only supports Netflix at this time. You'll find some who use it on the other forum at http://www.wildblueworld.com/forum/forum.php

Neither are free but the links given above provide all of the details.

PlayLater effectively turns your computer into a recorder, while Nightshift turns a supported router into a recorder.    
    
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Those liks above that old labs posted would be what you want to look in to for that
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Edit: one other thing for network TV shows HP had a USB TV turner you can get and I'm sure there's other brands too but if you have a windows computer with media center you can set it up with the USB tuner and record over the air TV on HD right to your computer no internet required other then keeping to TVGuide listings up to date! I actually have 3 of them have used them for many many years and would be lost with out them!!
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I'm assuming "over the air" means similar to the old TV antennae on the roof.  In my case, we live in the mountains and cannot get a single TV or radio station.  Sounds like a great remedy for areas with decent reception capabilities.   Thanks so much for the info.

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Or if you have cable you can use it for that too you should be able to connect a cable to it and set it up to record cable or sat tv
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1. The way I do it is using a software I downloaded (roughly $35) which saves the videos to a hard drive; I use an external USB drive (1 TB).  The software is called PlayLater. It only works on PC.
2. This software links to your Hulu and Netflix and downloads the videos, just like a DVR. Also, just like a DVR, it takes the same amount of time to download as the video takes to play; thus, if you use your five hour window, you can get two movies a night (or three short movies, I guess)
3. For bandwidth, assume 1 GB per hour of streaming video media at SD. Assume 3-5 GB per hour at HD. This is a pretty good estimate, regardless of source. Netflix, however, has an option to turn down your quality for all videos in the settings, but at the lowest, you still just under 1 GB/hr.
4. For size, assume 1 GB per hour of video. So a 32 GB drive will hold 32 hours of video, roughly.
5. PlayLater has no means of setting a timer. I use another freeware called Mouse Recorder Pro 2. It simply records your mouse clicks. You can then set the mouse click file to 'play' at midnight, thus you do not have to stay up. You just have to set your screen to be in the right place for the mouse clicks to click on stuff. I accomplish this by recording my mouse clicks with PlayLater at full screen.
6. I accomplish movies and 1 hour TV shows with a mouse click file I created that restarts the download within PlayLater. I set it up to click 'Restart' on each file in the My Recordings section at 11:59 pm. Before I go to bed, I set up five shows or two movies. I click to download and allow the download to start. Once the 'Cancel' button appears, I cancel the download (in the My Recording section). The buttons then change to 'Delete' and 'Restart'.  I recorded my mouse clicks clicking on 'Restart' for each video. My screen size allows there to be six 'Restart' buttons, plenty for 5 1 hour shows. I also have a mouse click file for 5,4,3,2, and 1 shows to be 'Restarted'.  I load proper file for how many shows I'm recording that night.
7. Scheduling the mouse click file to play at 11:59pm clicks on 'Restart' for each video. It's not a perfect system; I find sometimes the files do not download and when I'm on wireless, they almost never download. I hard lined my laptop into the router and it solved that problem.
8. I also recorded a mouse click file that right clicks on the PlayLater icon in the system tray (lower right in Windows) that selects 'Exit'. If a video is still downloading, I click 'Yes' to confirm canceling the download. If a video is still downloading, the mouse click will hit the 'Yes' button. If it is not downloading a video, it will instantly quit PlayLater and the click which confirms the 'Yes' button click harmlessly on the desktop below.  I play this Quit PlayLater mouse click file at 5:00 am the next day.
9. Once you play around with recording your mouse clicks and playing the file back, you will see what you can do.  For half hour shows, I record mouse clicks to shift-click 10 shows a night. Specifically, I use the search feature in PlayLater and record my mouse clicks to click file #1 then shift-click file #10 and click record. I do this for each series of 10 files because the buttons and other items move around.

This process took some trial and error play to get it right, but it works for me. Really well, I might add.

I hope this answers your questions. Reply and let me know if you need help setting up my system on your machine, if you choose to use it. 
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Wow, jennifer, thanks for all of the information! I love PlayLater but wasn't familiar with Mouse Recorder 2.0. Thanks again!
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Yea it's a pretty neat program. I have a similar one, Mouse Macro Recorder that I use for my game to collect hot event rewards. Most they make you collect one click at a time for like 100 clicks or more depending on how much stuff you turned in. The one I have you can set to click on a specific X,Y cord or color block or where the mouse courser is or also can do a BMP block.  So you can set it to do all sorts of stuff with the mouse including setting that script to run x number of times or on a set schedule. 
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I don't understand why Playlater won't put at least a simple scheduler in the program.
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I tried the Mouse Macro Recorder and I think it was the scheduler that wasn't free. 

PlayLater says they are working on it. But I guess they've been saying that for like 3 years.
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Wow, such great information.  I'm going to start pursuing this with more vigor.  My laptop and router is upstairs in an office area, and the big screen is downstairs.  The router is connected via an Ethernet cable to the laptop. It sounds like I may have a solution for capturing the movie on my laptop hard drive or USB stick; I just need to figure out how to get it play downstairs on the big screen.  I guess I could just disconnect the laptop and take it downstairs. I wonder if the big screen has a USB port on the back that would facilitate showing the recorded movies.  I have a Roku and and Apple TV that I carry to Costa Rica when we go there for six months.  They both work super down there with DSL.   I've never used either device here in the States for streaming because of the inherent monthly bandwidth limitations with satellite.
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Roku supports a PlayOn channel which is used to connect your PC running PlayLater to your Roku. You can search and play your recordings on your TV without having to move your PC.
This is how we watch the recordings. They sort in alphabetical order.

One note on the cancel and restart mouse click method: PlayLater creates a file when the recording starts. Restarting will create another file. Using the delete button will delete the newer version, thus you need to go into your PlayLater folder and delete the empty files manually, otherwise PlayOn on the Roku will show two listing for each program. The only real pain with my method.

As for the USB on your TV, only certain models support the use of media via USB. Most TVs use the USB port for firmware updates.
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Please forgive my ignorance in this area; I'm truly a novice.  Is the PlayOn feature built into the Roku, or do you have to buy another piece of software?  Or is it part of PlayLater  When we're in Costa Rica, the TV, router, and laptop are very close together, so I hook the Roku to the router with an Ethernet cable, and the Roku to the TV via HDMI.  Here in the States, the TV is in one room, and the laptop and router are in another.  I'm assuming I would place the Roku adjacent to the TV so it can be attached to it via an HDMI cable, and that presumes the Roku will be a wireless connection to the router.  Does that work well, being completely wireless broadcasting a movie?
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One more thought.  I set up Roku last night, setting the Roku adjacent to the TV and wirelessly getting programming from the upstairs router.  I noticed that the Roku has a USB slot on the side for viewing home movies. Would that work for viewing movies that were recorded on a USB stick via PlayLater, do you think?
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Also, one more thing.  The Roku viewing of "The Following" (love that show) worked great last night, but as expected, even with a  lower setting for picture quality, it used 600 MB, but again, it worked great.  What it told me though was that I really do need to figure out how to get this stuff recorded during the Free Zone.  I got up at 03:00 to check things and found that my consumption had gone up another 500 MB since we turned off the set and went to bed.  I'm wondering if my Laptop is screwing things up during the Free Zone because of it going in to power setting mode and essentially shutting down until someone hits the power on button.  That doesn't explain the 500 MB increase, but might explain why the Free Zone didn't provide any relief.  Have you ever heard of anyone having problems using the Free Zone due to laptop's characteristic of going into power saving mode?  Or should that make a difference?  Also, I didn't get a notice of any overnight Windows automatic updates that might have consumed bandwidth.  Puzzling.
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Data appearing on the usage meter is delayed. Your modem is polled on a regular basis for its modem statistics so that data could have been used prior to power savings mode and before the next successful handshake. Even then depending on how power savings mode is configured some usage can occur. The best option I've found is to sleep and ensure there's no wake on LAN configured - when sleeping like that I find that after about a minute or so the modem activity lights stop except for an occasional handshake (can you hear me now) or the regular polling of the modem for usage statistics - when working properly the latter occurs every 15 minutes like clock work.

Note that turning the modem off doesn't game the usage reporting since the statistics persist through a power outage and are reported on power up; but turning it off does ensure nothing is using data while powered off. One individual around here came up with the simple but effective use of an electrical timer that you can pick up at your local hardware store to schedule certain things. A limited satellite plan is the mother of invention.

Also be aware that the LNFZ can sometimes be late in kicking in - best to allow a sufficient buffer period going into and out of it when doing things unattended.  

As you can probably see, coming here with an open mind, thinking outside the box, and not simply ranting often yields an imaginative. albeit cumbersome, solution needed when on satellite internet.               
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Excellent and thoughtful advice.  Thank you.

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I would assume the USB would accept your recordings just the same as anything else. I have mine recording in mP4 so they can be transferred to an iPad (via the PlayLater app), which is a common media format. It should play them through the Roku, but I have found the PlayOn channel to be much easier then physically moving things.  But my solution is not everyone's solution.  I have a ridiculous amount of patience when it comes to the internet ... I spent 7 fire seasons working planning and operations (what comes tomorrow based on data from today) on a broadband card. Some days, you'd have to click to save a few Word documents then head to lunch so they can have time to complete. I try to look at the positives of satellite internet. Our house is capable of DSL, but only at dial-up speed and we are not inline with either of the WISP providers in our area, thus our choices are very slow and unlimited, or fast and limited. We choose the latter. (CenturyLink did tell us that if we could get 50 customers to commit to a two-year contract, they'd install a neighborhood booster ... yet there are only like 20 farms in what they'd call a neighborhood. Thanks for the love, guys.)  But I digress.

PlayLater offers a 30-day money back guarantee. If you'd like to download the software, in addition to the Mouse Recorder Pro 2, I'd happily help you set it up to test it tonight.  Then you'd have 30 days to figure out if the whole set up and either the PlayOn Roku channel or moving the external hard drive to plug into the Roku is a viable solution for capturing all the episodes of The Following. Let me know. I'm at my desk almost all day today.

I have to agree with Old Labs that the usage monitor is delayed. If The Following is a one hour show, you should expect to use 900-1000 MB per episode. The Free Zone does not count against your total, and if it did, I would have run out of data weeks ago. I have checked my usage before a live program, then after, then the next day and it took till the next morning to properly reflect the GB for a one hour episode. 
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Okay Jennifer, I'm a dummy.  I've downloaded PlayLater and after using for a while decided to buy it.  It works fantastic.  The only problem is having to stay up till midnite to schedule the program I want to record.  I have down loaded the Mouse Recorer Pro 2, the freeware you suggested to allow "pre-scheduling" the desired recordings.  Unfortunately, unless I downloaded the wrong thing, I don't see any instructions, videos, etc. as to how to learn how to use the product.  By the way,  I noticed a comment from another individual about a like-produtct/capability called Nightshift.  I've already bought PlayLater, so I'm committed to it, but I just wondered if you're familiar with Nightshift? 
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I don't think there was much in the way of instructions.  Pretty much, if you use the Mouse Recorder Pro software (since it installed like 6 things such as the editor and the calendar) to record your mouse clicks.
Use the 'record' button and start clicking on PlayLater setting up things to record. Go back to Mouse Recorder and stop the recording. Then stop the PlayLater recordings.  You can save and play the mouse file to see if it works the same by itself that it did when you did it.
Use the Mouse Recorder Calendar to 'Add' a file.  Add the file you just made and set the time to 11:59 pm (i'd set it for 2 minutes in the future and wait to see what happens, the set it again for 1159.  
I built another file that stops the recording by right-clicking on the PlayLater icon in the task tray and pressing quit. 
I hope this helps a bit. I can take some screen shots when I get home, but I'm only allowed to type in this box at work.
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I'll give it a whirl.  Thanks much.  Tom
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I tried PlayLater awhile ago, and I use NightShift now. I found NightShift to be easier to use, although I did have to buy the router but it was well worth it! With PlayLater I could only watch it on my PC, NightShift allows me to watch it on my Roku. No need to install programs on my PC either which is a plus.
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Actually, before I had a chance to check out the keystroke software, we were informed that Frontier is pulling fiber down her street as we speak and will be offering us DSL within 30-60 days.  We use DSL in Costa Rica for all of our internet needs: tablets, laptop, VOIP, and streaming every day for several hours per day, and we have no problems whatsoever.  The only minor issue is that if you try to use a MagicJack VOIP phone while streaming, you get a lot of static on the phone, which is easily resolved by pausing the program being streamed.  That's my only experience with DSL, but if it works as well here as there, I've got it made.  I bought PlayLater, but probably won't have much use for it going forward, but you never know.
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If they are just now running cable...you will not have service for at least another year 60 days is a pipe dream. Not trying to rain on your parade....just keeping it real.....after the fiber run, they need to setup the drops to homes....I dont know your city / area....but they could run right by your house, with no intention of hooming up any one, coukd be for network back bone stuff. Wish you luck
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Tom Legate

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Actually, I think the estimate is correct. We've been hounding and working with Frontier execs to get this  DSL in the area.  They wouldn't have put it in writing to us if they weren't pretty confident of the dates.  We've become a real thorn in their side this past year and they want to get us off their back.  My bigger concern is how DSL will perform.  We're at the extreme end of the allowable cable length from the switch.  I think some in our neighborhood will get better performance than others.  Time will tell.   

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