Best Router At Present to Measure Each Device Usage

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My Netgear router just quit on me. I just upgraded firmware as recommended by Netgear and now the pc cannot recognize the router. I cannot even do a factory rest. It is a AC1750 Smart WiFi router Model R6400 that I bought 2 years ago. Its time to give up on Netgear. 

There has been much discussion on this forum about Asus routers that can measure the data transmission through each connected device. So I am ready to improve my data data measuring capabilities.

What is the latest and best model to do this? Who sells this at the best price?

Thanks for your knowledge and help.
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It may not be the router. Can you connect to the Netgear with any other device? If you search the forum you'll find where I discussed a Windows glitch that would turn off your pc's wifi as a power saving measure. 

You can always go into your Netgear router and check out settings or you can just press and hold the reset button located in the back of the router. That will make is like a brand new one out of the box. Of course you'll have to set it up again but that's super easy. 

Andy
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Thanks Andy.
The firmware update seems to have fried the Netgear router.
When I turn on the Netgear router, the proper lights illuminate except the power light.
I was connected by ethernet to the router and 192.168.1.1 returned no such device.
Same situation with my ipad. It could not find 192.168.1.1 either.
The reset button does not do anything anymore.
From past experience with Netgear support after the warranty has expired, it is better to avoid that experience.
I wonder how many other Netgear owners have had to replace their routers due to a Netgear firmware update? The update never would complete itself.
 It looks like other manufactures have overtaken Netgear as a router leaders.
One interesting point is that a thunderstorm came up while the new firmware was being downloaded. But I thought the checksum prevented corrupted data transfers during such events.
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ASUS RT68U or higher.  Install the Asuswrt-Merlin firmware enhancement.
This router is an AC-1900, and higher numbered one's are just faster on the WiFi.  If you have Google Fiber Gb Internet and host a room full of gamers, a higher model is worth the money.  If you have ViaSat and are just serving home devices, the RT68U is the one to get. 

I could write a long article about what these routers can do, but won't.
 
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If looking for an out of box experience without having to install third party firmware, look for a model that specifically lists the Traffic Analyzer feature (not to be confused with the simpler Traffic Monitor feature). You can compare models at:

https://www.asus.com/Networking/Wireless-Routers-Products/

I personally use the ASUS RT-AC3200 and can state it's there on unpacking the box. I keep meaning to tryout the Asuswrt-Merlin firmware on it to see if it adds even more functionality; but have reached that stage in life where if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 
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Ditto
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Agreed.
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I googled it and Amazon has it for $189. But they are out of stock.
I will wait and go without WiFi for a while. I am currently connected by ethernet to the Viasat modem, bypassing the router.

I never knew there were routers with six antennas! There must be a technical advantage to such an arrangement. 
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I got mine off eBay a few months ago. Try this if you don't mind refurb.

https://www.ebay.com/p/ASUS-RT-AC3200-2600-Mbps-4-Port-Gigabit-Wireless-AC-Router/195613505?iid=2924... 
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FWIW, the RT-AC3200 was introduced some 2-3 years ago as I recall - availability of new units may be limited at this point (although refurbished units can be found easily as noted by Michael above). The RT-AC88U seems to be its successor while the RT-AC86U is less expensive - checking the Asus site for features, both of those appear to have the Traffic Analyzer feature out of the box - look specifically for that feature on the box or Asus site if wanting an OOBE. 

However as Judge and Jury noted and if adventurous, you can get the equivalent feature with the AsusWrt-Merlin firmware installed on some lower priced models see:

https://asuswrt.lostrealm.ca/about

P.S. Newegg.com is sometimes worth a look-see.
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Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.
I took your advice Michael and went with the refurbished one from Newegg.
I have not tried refurbished equipment before but Newegg says they have sold > 500 of these which I assume includes yours. You have had 4 trouble free months so far so that says something.
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One last thing on the ASUS with Merlin......  It is ideal for use with ViaSat because it has up to the minute, hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly totals to show you.  The real selling point is you define when the month starts so it will be an excellent data 'verifier' against the ViaSat data usage meter.  My ViaSat-shown usage always matches the router within mere decimal places of a perfect match.

The Merlin upgrade only takes a couple minutes and gives great features.
 
Oh.. and all those antennas... It's for beam-forming and better MIMO performance.
 
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Just be prepared for the size of the  thing  when you take it out of the box!!!  It is pretty large.
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Don't worry about refurbished. I just bought a refursbished laptop for the 3rd time. And I will do it a fourth time. Just make sure to buy from a company that has good ratings (and a lot of them).
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A few years back Old Labs guided me to an ASUS RT-AC68P router and it solved all of my issues upon opening the box. Don't have the first clue about Merlin or any settings or even how to get into them if I wanted to. As stated above I don't try to fix anything that is not broke.
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So the Asus RT-AC3200 came today. Cool beans. I should have invested in this a lot sooner.
The traffic meter is exactly what I need to keep myself and Viasat honest. Not that Viasat needs it.
It cost $115 from Newegg and came in 2 days. Anyone who has suspicions about Viasat's lack of transparency should invest in this.

Maybe now I will just shut up, depending on what I determine.
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Just a suggestion having found out the hard way. There's a NAT Acceleration feature that should be disabled (it's set to auto by default) if wanting accurate stats.

When set to auto it can impact the accuracy of the Traffic Monitor statistics (not sure about any Traffic Analyzer impact). I also believe it may only impact wired connections from what I noticed - while I was setting everything up I was using a wired connection vs wireless and kept it that way for a few days. The Traffic Monitor statistics were considerable lower than the Viasat usage count (almost seemed like no wired traffic was being accumulated by the router). Since disabling, the statistics between the two have been pretty much consistent within a reasonable margin of error (and the routers stats at least for me tend to be on the slightly high side.

That NAT Acceleration setting can be found under the LAN -Switch Control setting should you notice a discrepancy and want to eliminate it as a cause for any major discrepancy:

    

There's a warning about NAT Acceleration impact on the Traffic Monitor page when it's set to auto. 
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Enjoy the new toy, the user interface has a few quirks but if puzzled just ask. I'm still learning about it - just the other day I learned there's a switch on the front to turn off the LEDs and the amazing light show and dance of the sugar plum LEDs - I don't  read manuals ;)
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Old Labs,
I followed your advice and disabled NAT.
I do not understand enough to know what I actually accomplished by doing this.
What does NAT stand for and what does it do?
Thanks.
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Network Address Translation - essentially that which allows sharing the single IP address that the ISP assigns to your router with multiple devices connected to your router. That setting enables/disables hardware acceleration. NAT is still enabled, however.

If interested in the technical details, NAT acceleration and guidelines on when to use it are described at:

https://routerguide.net/nat-acceleration-on-or-off/

But with the speeds you and I get in VA, enabling it really doesn't buy much but we're ready for the future and Viasat-3 ;)
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