Advantages of running older Windows systems..

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Yes, there really are some advantages in staying with older Windows operating systems.


I still have 2 desktops running XP and my Laptop (the one I use now) that's still running Vista.


And yes, there are some minor disadvantages too, such as Microsoft no longer supports XP and Vista so no updates, (that may translate into a plus for some of you Win10 users who hate frequent updates from Microsoft that sometimes crash your system)...And most Browsers and A/V software companies have stopped updating the engines of those programs but still release updates for definitions for those programs so still OK and they work fine...


As examples, I had not run MalwareBytes nor SuperAntiSpyware for about two years..Yesterday I let them update with the latest definitions and ran both while booted into Safe-Mode....not one finding!!!  In the distant past they would always find problems to fix, but nothing now..


One logical reason why XP and Vista systems are now more secure than they were in their hayday...Hackers and malware writers no longer attack these systems...they're too busy developing bad stuff that attacks Win-8 and Win-10 systems..so they ignore the few systems that are still running XP and Vista..


I may still upgrade my laptop with newer hardware and operating system one day but for right now I'm very pleased with the way these computers continue to perform and I can do everything on the net that I've always done..

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I also think, if I'm not imagining it, the older versions of Windows also run more smoothly too compared to 8 and 10. Do you think 7 is also a good choice? I have xp, vista 8, 7 and 10 on hand!
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Of course...Win-7 really is in about the same condition as XP and Vista...☺

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Thanks, I just might install windows 7 back on my laptop, they always seemed to run a lot faster too!
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I got forced to "upgrade" to Windows 7 about a year ago. I am with the "if it isn't broke, don't fix it crowd." It was an issue with a download of something needed to access a website I needed to use on a work related matter. I will resist an upgrade to Windows 8 or 10 as long as possible. Those look terrible as far as I am concerned. I only surf the net on a PC and have a flip phone.
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Google something like "windows xp pos registry", it expires this month, I don't know if it did at the beginning, or the end though, didn't look into it.

Some past infections didn't require going to a website or downloading a file/email, just being online caused infection (plus an improper firewall).  Many infections can avoid detection especially in easily compromised systems like XP (not saying you have been compromised).  And "they" often use malware that shows no symptoms.  A properly working computer suits their use, logging keystrokes, or setting up a botnet (active or not).  Etc.

You already know this
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/still-use-windows-xp-prepare-worst/

It's been years since I've had a freeze, crash, or data loss caused by Windows.  10 works fine on my hardware, no complaints from neighbors or family.  I used to run around the area (several miles) cleaning out systems, infected often, even with the "best stuff" and precautions taken (mistyped website, accidental button press, visiting kids, etc., usually the main causes).  When 7 came out, markedly less infections that I heard about.  10, it's been a long time since I've had to clean out a system, as in years.  Although I preferred Linux, since Windows is now taking less upkeep, I don't care that much.  Yes there are update issues for some, but I delay them, and have never experienced issues. I've always been able to use any operating system I've been around, never really had much issue with that (although I HATE mac/ios, the statement includes them).

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Support for 7 ends in 2020. I don't want to move to 10 either, but when upgrading hardware will need to at some point.
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I've been using W10 since it was released and it is by far the fastest OS Microsoft has ever released. I've experienced exactly zero problems with it on 4 different machines. No way I would ever go back to an older system.
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I run Windows 10 Pro on both a desktop and laptop and have absolutely no issues.     
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So you don’t mind the huge seasonal updates at all??? You don't mind when you go turn the computer on and you have to wait for it to apply an update and then reboot before you can use it? Wish I had your patience.
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No, I don't mind them, but if I choose to I can also control when I download them with the Pro version.  
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"You take them off, they will come back.  It isn't that easy."
Reading your link, that was apparently a glitch that was patched.  I did not look into it more, all I can say is, I never saw it.
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The first time I installed Windows 10 there were a couple of games that were being installed.  I uninstalled them twice, set the Store to NOT auto update, and the games stayed gone.  Since then, if and when I perform a clean install from the latest build, which I almost always do after a major update, I uninstall them the first time and they stay gone.   
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At the same time, let's not forget the security holes that are going to be present in Windows versions that are no longer supported, like XP and Vista.  You're fine if you're using them for playing old games or something, but if you go online and do anything other than anonymous browsing you're taking one heck of a risk.  
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I'm gonna go with Windows 95 on my Acer Predator gaming laptop. Should be a fun challenge.
It would be a miracle!  

In reality it's impossible, but it's an interesting thought.  Can you imagine running original Windows 95/98 games on something like that?  System Shock 2 in Ubermensch mode would probably be so fast it would nearly be impossible to control the character.  LOL.    
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I was joking of course, but last year a developer came up with an app that let you run Windows 95 within modern Windows, MacOS and Linux systems. It was mainly for folks who wanted to experience the nostalgia of an older operating system.
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I remember that and I was going to give it a try, but like so many other things, I got sidetracked.  Or maybe it got sidetracked and I stayed on the main one.  LOL.  

Windows 95 was a game changer, that's for sure.  It's what my first PC came with.  And, not knowing a darn thing about computers, I twice accidentally deleted a specific INI file and messed it up.  Not bricked, but useless.  I would quite often delete old files, as the HDD didn't have a ton of room, but I did it in a risky way.  I had to take it back to the shop so they could reload W95, as the computer didn't come with a W95 installation disk.  I didn't know enough about it at the time to know that I was legally entitled to one, but they fixed it, nonetheless.  

Still, if I was to ever build an old computer for nostalgia's sake it would have Windows XP.  XP was an even bigger game changer, as NTFS made it so much more stable than prior Windows OSs.  I used to get BSODs quite often with W95, W98, W98SE and WMe.  I haven't had a BSOD since upgrading to XP in late 2002.  Not a single one in nearly 17 years.     
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Windows 95/Windows XP/Windows 7/Windows 10 (because it was "free")


All the other OS have been left by the wayside or forgotten.


Windows NT was good too, but that was a server based system.
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I've used every Windows OS since 95, though presently only W10 Pro (desktop and laptop) and W8.1 (notebook).  And no, I don't need three computers.  The notebook was free due to the eMachines floppy drive suit.  It's just a backup.  I rarely use it.  
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Another valid point, which also supports continued use of older Windows operating systems.


As you said, just to be able to run Win-10, for example, would require me to buy a new computer just to give me the capability of installing a new operating system.


And I may do that one day, but not now...XP and Vista works great, faster and IMHO, more secure...


All my security software stays up-to-date and works fine...like:

Ccleaner, Avast, MalwareBytes and SuperAntiSpyware..

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Ccleaner, Avast, MalwareBytes and SuperAntiSpyware don't plug Windows specific security holes.  
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No, they find and destroy any security breached code...including tracking cookies.

The final, and best, prevention system is the user!!  Most malware/virus code gets on the user's computer either by opening an infected email or downloading a program or program update that is infected..so never open an email from someone you don't know or trust..and download only from trusted sites...I use Filehippo.com for most downloads...they check the code before allowing it to be downloaded.

But the big problem is surfing the internet with browsers that are also vulnerable...the solution is to never visit a risky website or download from one of them...Selecting a browser to use and what extensions to add-on to it is critical in keeping infected software off your system.

I have all the major browsers, IE, Chrome, Opera, Firefox and the Avast Secure Browser..

But for the last two years I only use SlimJet, like the ViaSat browser, it's a slimmed down version of Chrome and is faster and more secure.  I recommend installing it with the following extensions/add-ons to SlimJet,

Web Of Trust (WOT)...this add-on prevents you from surfing to a risky web sites...it warns you before going there...you can over-ride it if you choose but it's no a good idea.

Flash-Block-Plus..keeps most video type files from downloading and executing...you can also over-ride it..

AdBlocker-Ultimate...self explanatory.

Disable HTLM5 AutoPlay,,,sel explanatory

You can find those add-ons at the Chrome online download Store...SlimJet accepts Chrome add-ons.

Like the old adage...the biggest cause of auto accidents is the loose nut behind the wheel...

The biggest cause of Malware/Virus infections is the inattentive user behind the screen and keyboard..
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I did all that stuff you explain to stop videos from playing and still have occasional issues. It seems only one site keeps defeating my efforts and that is ESPN. I tried a couple more changes and now when I click through off the front page occasionally I will get audio out of nowhere but no video. They are the most obnoxious sport site with trying to sell you subscription content, and number of ads (I see the Ad Blocker numbers). Unfortunately they have good content and I like their layout. It seems the thing I cannot stop from time to time is called a Brightcove player.
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The SlimJet browser, is it pretty good? Anyone answer that question. Never heard of it before!
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As I mentioned it's almost a mirror image of the ViaSat browser offered by ViaSat, only the ViaSat version won't install on an XP or Vista system.

Slimjet is a fast and powerful web browser that is based on the Blink engine and is built on top of the Chromium open source project, so if you use Google chrome as your browser of choice then you will already be familiar with Slimjet.

Slimjet integrates numerous powerful and convenient features to assist you in maximizing your online productivity. The browser includes many options and settings to let you, the user, customize it to suit your own preferences. Slimjet does keep most of the existing features that are already in Chrome whilst adding some major features on top.

Key features include:

  • Intelligent form filler.
  • Fully customizable toolbar.
  • Facebook integration.
  • YouTube video downloader.
  • Instant photo upload.
  • Weather forecast.
  • URL Alias Support in Omnibox.
  • Flexible web page translation.

Overall, Slimjet is a well designed browser that provides you with lots of customizable options and features. Slimjet is compatible with almost all plugins and extensions from the Chrome web store. It is is free for both personal and commercial use and runs on Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8.


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https://filehippo.com/download_slimjet/


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With my experience where you go on the net and what you download dictates whether you have security and virus issues or not. When I had teenage males in my house many moons ago I was constantly fighting computer issues. It seems social media sites centered around younger members and porn sites are hotbeds for computer viruses. Before Facebook took hold social media sites came and went like the wind. I think I remember one called High Five that was the worst. I started looking at the browsing histories it seemed that site seemed to be good for a virus a day. When I told the kid to stop going there the virus problem dropped quite a bit. I never used more than the security provided by windows. At my current location in 8 years I can't remember having a virus. I don't do social media, and all the forums I belong to are mostly professional and have an older crowd.
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Social media and porn all day long here. LOL. Still no issues with an XP machine.
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not really appropriate....
http://i.imgur.com/ohnWDbW.jpg

Another bad analogy "but ocifer, I dive dunk all the time, I ain't nev hit nobody, evr".  Or, the bad brakes, bad tires analogy.  Don't drive like an idiot, you will make it to your destination most of the time.  But, a sniper picks a random target, they try a car, but it has bullet proof glass.  They try yours, it shatters, you plow into other cars and take them out too.  Your odds of being picked may be similar to winning a lottery, doesn't mean it won't happen.  It's not just you at risk, that's a fact.

Just because you can, and haven't, doesn't mean that you are "safe", for yourself or others.  How do you know you don't have issues (or are causing them), if malware can disable detection?  I can't count how many times back in the day, name brand, best of the best antivirus running and updated all the time, I'd go over, either off, completely disabled, or on, but something obviously wrong.

Personally, I have never had a virus, well over 20 years of experience.  EXCEPT, I had a backup computer here and was working on someone's.  Dialup days, pre '06.  It was a fully updated, but backup computer.  I did not have a usb drive or portable at the time, so I connected ethernet to backup someone's system.  Firewall was bothering, so I turned it off, since I thought that their dialup was disconnected.  Turns out it wasn't, counted to about 3, my system was hit.  No programs or browsers open.

Viasat rep, maybe Brad, if you want to reply of course?  You are in internet stuff, and know people, good idea or bad idea to connect unpatched operating systems to the internet, even if having software "protection"?
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I think the issue with the teenagers were they were downloading homemade videos and other items that came with the viruses.
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True. Reputable porn sites are generally clean