About to Dump Centurylink AND Direct TV and opt for HULU via Viasat. Lookin at 100g up to 50 meg plan

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About to Dump Centurylink AND Direct and opt for HULU/Roku via Viasat. Lookin at 100g up to 50 meg plan... Live in Southeast close to Gulf Beach. Comments?
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Why????

In no way, shape, or form is satellite internet intended for cord cutting.

You will burn through that 100GB in no time and then wonder why you won't be able to stream anything.
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 If you have to climb a pole in the middle of a foggy night and tap any kind of line it will save you time, money and constant stress. Das kompanie knows w/in a few 100bytes what speeds are available at what hours. It ain't rocket science and last launch that killed perhaps 1/3 of expected new data. Barring abnormally high and persistent solar and/or magnetic flaring things could be ok. The reality is constant channel jams with cute terms like no priority, de-prioritize and where I am 2 days in renewed monthly allotment...snare soft hiss while latency bounces test again...point browser window at http://speedtest.risebroadband.com/
mine was 690 which is in some mystic way travelling 44,000 miles faster than it can. dll side of 5.8, upload of 1.0. With on extremely ticked question, "How did the miserly 12gb disappear before the new month. Respond in some fashion soonest. Thank you in advance for clarifying this and other shabby treatment the has come to light.

So Bryan, learn how to attach bnc connectors, find a live wire, stay away from circuits issuing a hiss noise and save yourself a TON of grief. Satellite ISP are geared towards their primary and new locales which are, White House comms, military and for last 3 to 6 months massive pushes in EU and Africa. Beojoo'doo'B my khalahari bushman buddy isn't known for complaining much but the dish has blown him up to 300' while trying to sleep and no parachute included. Thank God the new travelling banko keeps the goats clean and fed. Final rant (yah sure) embrace and revel in customer service that treats itself as 2nd world citizens and residential customers as something inadvertently stepped in stuck to bottom of shoe. In that dark, damp hole you will then find angst. Good night and good luck.

Rough calc puts beam (like a channel with defined footprint) over sold up 28% in heavily populated areas during peak user hammering away, 5:30pm to past 12:00am. the so called unrestricted time rarely bumps execrable speed up more than 80kb. Personal worst was .o13kbps. In 1995 current state of art dialup was 26.6. Currently testing mobile solar hotspot on ridge I can see towers in San Jose and Gilroy then dumping repeat 1/2 mile to my home on Metro who uses Sprint(?) 4gLTE but apparently the phone ate my viasat quota in under 2hours. There is something smellier than Camembert in San Diego, Denver or the Oregon Coast. Time to 420 relax and giggle. And the suggested mascot is feeling so rejected he is asking for salt; gave him a colorful friend too
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Advocating illegal practices that could cost him a lot of money, give him a criminal record and possibly even cause injury (tap any line)?

Great advice!  SMH.  
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Apparently Martin is under the assumption that everyone has a cable line running by their home. 

If there was a cable line on the pole near  my house, I would not be using satellite internet and TV services.

!, tapping into a line on the pole to steal a service is illegal, and 2, it takes more than tapping into a cable line to get TV or internet, one would need to supply the appropriate modem, and then get the modem "authenticated" before it will work, something that must be done by the ISP utilizing the line.

'Tis the weekend, glad I have lots of peanuts, popcorn and beverages here at the house.

Let the entertainment begin, weekends seem to bring out the best of some people.
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Idiots try to steal copper wire from the electrical infrastructure too!
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And copper piping.  We don't have much of a problem with that right here, but about 15 miles south of me they do.  It's a poor area, with the occasional abandoned house. 

We have an old, sizable, closed state institution about 1.5 miles up the road, and up until a few years ago the state police would occasionally catch people sneaking around in the grounds, trying to steal what they could, including copper piping from inside the buildings.
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I in a situation where Centurylink was a local Mom and Pop. It was sold two or three times after initial purchase. I am at the end of a switch and am lucky if I get 5megs. Due to federal regulation on telecom, no one else can or is willing to come in and run FTTH. I'm stuck. Sick of DirectTV I guess. All the channels I have and sometimes nothing really good to watch.
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5Mbs with low latency and unlimited data will still outperform satellite internet. Dont believe the marketing and hype.
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This is 100% correct, also in a lot of areas VIASAT will never be close to a steady uninterrupted 5mbs. My VIASAT was so bad I would have been happy to have .5mbs with no drops. I went over data twice in 7 years, had up to a dozen drops out a day without weather issues and speeds were often under 1mb. As mentioned with the latency a 5mb on VIASAT can be much worse than lower speeds hardwired.
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We have Centurylink here also, but only phone, DSL stops 4 1/2 miles from us at the  wifes parents house.  Centurylink is actually "a Verizon company" that was our previous phone provider.  Its a win-win for Verizon, they can reap any profits for years on a failing, out dated rural system like this, then if regulations or operating costs get out of hand they can cut and run without any fallout on the "mother company."

DirecTV I have been with on and off since Oct of 94 when they started.  Things sure have changed through the years.  The WORST in my opinion have been since AT&T bought them.  I tell them EVERY MONTH, when I pay my $100 + bill for "basic" and fees, and taxes, and DVR service, and HD programming, and 2nd TV, my "package" is only $50, its every other "added cost" that bring it over $100!  Anyway, start talking money and lose my train of thought!  I tell them every month what I am paying is RIDICULOUS for the same stinking shows ALL DAY LONG on a given channel.  I can go to WalMart and buy entire seasons of Law and Order SVU and American Pickers, and Big Bang Theory and others, on DVD and drop DTV completely.
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Know your problem, viasat has been working for me ,until today, like you I was thinking of ditching Directv the replies and last couple of days have changed my mind. Still works for streaming a couple of hrs a night. Be careful with Century link. They tried to tell me that I had agreed, on the telephone, to extend contract (no written or audio record) took a long time and a court to set it right.
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I would not dump DirecTV or Dish and rely totally on satellite internet.
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We have Dish which seems to be a bit easier on data. I never connected direct TV. I cannot stream due to buffering. I can download occasional On Demand content and watch it later. We can watch you tube and have the 25 silver plan (150 g) but limited to 480p. I even had NetFlix but only watched one series which was 1 show per week. We rarely go over 50g but remain very vigilent on what we watch. We love Viasat, but in my experience it is not intended to replace Sat tv, but may enhance a few light choices.
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I too have DirecTV and I too am disgusted paying $100 a month to watch the same shows ALL DAY LONG!  Nothing against them, they started operations Oct 10 1994, and I was with them Oct 11, ONLY because I waited until the following day to install my dish.  I tell them every month ITS THE PROGRAMMING!  Why pay SO MUCH when I can go buy DVDs of these shows at WalMart and watch them over and over all day FOR FREE!

I would LOVE to "cut the cord" but video burns data, and satellite is NOT the way to go ... or I would have by now!

I see ads and articles for ISPs that work off other companys connections.  Something about THEY secure the connection, through Centurylink in your case, then all your data goes through them?  They claim increased speeds?  I am not sure  I usually stop reading at  "internet connection required" but maybe someone else here knows?  Its worth a shot.
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Thanks for the info. Rose we are looking at dumping the Satellite TV all together and just use Roku or Hulu. I have played with the data calculator but who knows how accurate or reliable that think is....
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Satellite internet is not meant for cord cutters.

Honestly, I dont think Viasat will perform any better than the internet you got now. So if you want to cut the cord, keep wired internet.
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NOPE stay away from satellite if you want it to watch any amount of video 
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Don't Do It
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Speeds like I get during primetime are not typical after using your priority data. Even I would recommend keeping DSL if you plan to cord cut, unless you want to build a Plex server.
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OK, educate me on a plex server....:)
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Indian food.
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tikka masala? That was my gateway into really enjoying Indian food
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Plex is a media server that you can put your downloads, digital backups, etc onto a streaming app sort of Netflix but with your personal content. I haven't done a lot with it but I have a very small library for "Brad-flix" with some digital copies of movies and such. 
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I gave up on the Playon Desktop because not all streaming services recorded successfully with Viasat. Amazon and Netflix appeared to work okay, but HBO to Go did not. With Playon Cloud I have had no recording issues. Plus, even if you are on a video resolution restricted plan, you can still record in 720p. So even with the Bronze plan, you can still watch HD.

The problem comes in when trying to watch live events (such as sports). There are times (like yestrrday), my internet is so slow I couldn't stream anything live. And that is with plenty of priority data left.

Again, I don't see the upside of going away from what you got now. You will pay more money, have higher latency, and be locked into something for two years.

As Brad says below, it depends on your viewing and usage habits, but it can get VERY frustrating if you are trying to watch something live and it just won't work.
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PlayOn Cloud Good
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Just to somewhat parrot what others are saying: you CAN stream on our service but I don't recommend "cord cutting". Data can be drained really quick with cord cutting. Keep in mind that a single HD movie can eat about 4GB alone. 

That's always a difficult question to give an appropriate answer to because everyone has their own definition of what "a little bit", " a lot" or "average" when it comes to answering how much TV one watches and whether it'll work with Viasat. 

Here's what you'll need to know: The Unlimited plans have a resolution limit. The Silver is the MINIMUM of what I'd suggest because it does 480p (Standard Definition) on streaming. Gold will do 720p (HD) and all of those plans have a point before you're subject to being deprioritized on the network during peak hours (5pm-12am). 

The Liberty plans if available do not have the resolution restrictions but have a data limit but you can still have speed for browsing after hitting it but streaming may not work out. 
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CAN is a very open ended word. It supposes that speeds on older unlimited plans aren’t being throttled by the new policy retroactive to unlimited plans secured before February 2018 to sub 1Mbps that renders trying to stream utterly useless. But yea, you can stream if ViaSat so allows it.
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yeah now with the throttling you MIGHT get to watch part of a video and then wait an hour for the spinning wheel LOL
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For the love of god, don’t do it. We were getting streaming speeds approaching 256Kbps last night on Unlimited Silver plan last night.
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Yea. Things were pretty slow last night, at least on my beam. I havent seen it THAT slow in awhile. Not even during the holidays.
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No where near 150Gbs
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Yep. In certain areas of the country yesterday speeds were horrendous
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Bryan, 

Besides all that has already been said about why it's not really a good idea, there is also the congestion problem.  Congestion is highest in the evenings, when the largest number of people are online and when most people try to stream.  Even if you're able to get the 50Mbps plan, the congestion and latency isn't something streaming services tend to get along with very well.  

I'm another one that would't recommend it.  
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I have century link 4 down and .1 up. It works about 3/4 of the time. I have viasat Freedom Plan 12mbs 150G and was told I could stream HD anytime. But contract says speeds up to 12. I get 12 at 3am but from 7pm to 11pm only get 2 or less. Also latency is much worse than DSL. I have kept the Viasat for non-primetime (wife retired) and when DSL is down. But most of the time I use Verizon and ATT cell hotspot until it runs out, then DSL. I only use about 30GB/month because that is all I use with such slow speeds (no streaming possible). Satellite is so much worse than DSL or Wireless, don't do it. 
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I know it was you, Fredo.
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He was frozen in the meat truck, behind Carbone.  If you blinked you missed him.  :)  
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LMAO  Movie quotes!

I know what you're thinking. 'Will it be 25 Mbps today or only point five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this congestion, i dont know myself. But being that this is Viasat, the most powerful internet in the world, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?
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May the bandwidth be with you.  
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And with you!

Oops, sorry that's the response to Peace be with you - and during flu season we've been instructed not to shake hands.
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Even with a Plex server you are better sticking with what you got for what you want. You can cord cut with a low latency 5mbps unlimited data ISP. When you go over your soft cap here you will very likely receive speeds below 2 mbps in primetime. You may even see speeds at or below 56k.
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Just face the facts. If you are looking for bandwidth on Viasat https://youtu.be/6BbyNFonwBI
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*Tosses pickaxe over shoulder* Yep , Gonna have to go out to california to get me some internet
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Well, looks like I will NOT be jumping to VIASAT, however...DirectTV hits the skids on March 3rd after 8 years.....
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Thanks for all the feed back. Rabbit Ears hear I come!
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They have those wall mount type antennas on Amazon.  I've heard people have had somewhat good luck with them, or at least better than what you could get with rabbit ears or a standard extension antenna.  They're not very expensive either.  
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DISH?
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DISH is worse than direct.  Havent heard a single good thing about it.  I have 2 commercial free movie channels on my DTV base package, TCM, and TMC (east) I would lose them both switching to DISH and of course I would lose Audience, DTVs own channel which plays commercial free movies among other things.

I blew 20 bucks or so and bought a "top of set" HD antenna with 75 mile range.  In the right conditions I can get good reception on the networks from WV, and turning it a bit I get 7 channels of PBS CLEARLY.  I live in a "hole" and it was cheap, BUT IT DOES WORK!  And has opened me up to the possibility of investing more money in a much better omni directional outdoor antenna with a  pole/tower set up.
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Yea Vet its the OU channels, just not sure if I am grabbing them from Athens or Cambridge.  I guess they transmit them all from all their towers?   Each one is branded to a different location.
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You are getting OU channels.
What are OU channels?  
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OU = Ohio University.

They run PBS stations.  As Ron Frank says they have multiple transmitters in southeast Ohio. 

One of the few channels I could get way back in the day.  Of course, that gave me Dr. Who., so who needed more than that!
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Ah, okay.  I looked up OU and Ohio University was the only thing that kept popping up, but I didn't connect them with the PBS statement.  Makes sense, now.  

I get three OTA PBS channels, but they're all from an independent, local PBS channel that has been around since long before I was born, and became an actual PBS affiliate a couple of years before I was born. 

Unfortunately, though, their tower is located in a somewhat different direction, is a good deal further away, and is weaker than nearly all the rest, and sometimes their broadcasts are a little choppy.  And this is with an old style roof antenna (no rotor, though).  
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Sorry Gabe, Ohio University has a strong broadcasting department with both radio and TV stations.  OU is based in Athens Ohio but has multiple satellite locations throughout the area and most have studios, transmitters or both.  I assume today in our internet and digital age they are capable of transmitting all 7 of their PBS channels from any given tower, at any given location.
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TBH there is a way to cord cut if you have the right stuff to do it with this service. One is get yourself a router that can have custom firmware flashed and get dd-wrt or gargoyle and limit the bandwith to 1.8mbps. or if you have a roku use the hidden menu options and limit your streaming speed to 1.5 or 2mbps and you should if you don't download large files be able to do it. Oh and also set your Connections in windows to metered connections and make your antivirus software update at 24-48 hour intervals instead of the default which for most is every hour and that alone can eat through cubic crap tone of data. And if you have the knowledge or i can assist you with it create your own private server that can compress data you tunnel all your traffic through it and it compresses it even if it is Https. You can cord cut with the service just not on the lower end plans and without the right setup. I personally was doing it till the policy change on the old unlimited plans. BUt starting Tuesday i will be on the new unlimited gold data plan but may end up moving to platinum because i do like the idea of downloading a game from steam or for my nintendo switch that fast but then again 50mbps may be more than enough for me. Gues ill see but anything is better than what i get now witht he policy change this is what i get on peak hours and also during off peak hours and this is even if not over my data limit.....
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How 'bout some oysters?  
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Humans don’t have the most brain capacity. Whales do.
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No thanks, I just took a blue pill and that would be overkill, Gabe.
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Blue pill?  I would have thought you were a red pill person.  Then again, I might choose the blue pill, too.  
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@ Stephen

Bird brains are highly dense with more cells per cubic cc...just remember, Tweety Bird was a Hollywood star.