About the new Video Data Extender

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All Exede service plans (except unlimited data plans) have a new feature this fall. It’s called the Video Data Extender, and it’s aimed at giving you the ability to stream more online video using a lot less data. All Exede customers will have this featured automatically enabled throughout the fall of 2017. If you’d like to check to see if your account has been enabled, just log in to MyExede.net

You can also toggle it off if you'd prefer to stream at full resolution.

Read more here.

If you're not sure what 480p looks like vs. other resolutions, check out this video.
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Posted 11 months ago

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I'm very happy Exede is doing this.  Streaming at 480p should be fine for most everyone. There have been lots of posts from customers who want the ability to lower their internet speed so they can save more data.  And for those who must stream at full res, you can turn it off permanently if you want.  Thanks Alex.
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At least it is named appropriately and not called an "optimizer".

But dont assume 480 will be fine for most people. That is up to each consumer to decide. The fact that it can be turned off is definitely a plus though!
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Not over here ;)

https://www.exede.com/blog/everything-need-know-video-data-extender/

The Video Data Extender optimizes all video streaming over your Exede service to a screen resolution of 480p, which is DVD quality.
But it appears to be serving its purpose, people don't seem to be complaining about buffering and stuttering videos on unlimited yet - as long as speeds stay above the throttled threshold people will likely be happy with it (except for the videophiles).

Saying it's optimized is easier than explaining adaptive streaming rates to the casual user.
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Good catch! But "downgrading" HD video to Standard Definition isn't "optimizing" anything. Now it will save data and I am sure provide a more consistent video stream.

They are basically doing what Hughesnet did awhile back. Of course, one reason why I would not go with Hughesnet is the video stream resolution cap. Yes. I am a videophile....lol.
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I think they're neither downgrading nor optimizing - they're just influencing the content provider's quality decision on delivery - the providers don't want to be delivering high quality over a slow connection from there their perspective either - it bogs down there theirserver too.

Buffering and stuttering are not video quality issues, they're connection issues - although most will see it as a video quality issue.

Just another euphemism added to the ISP lexicon...
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@ Exede/Alex, Official Rep,

In your post here you have a bum link.  It has a space at the end which is part of the link making it not work.
 
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why is this happing at this time???  We customer's were lead to believe that we would have superbly increased service with the launch of viasat 2.  Please don't tell me after months of promises your going to throw your existing customer's under the bus, like every other company!!!!!!!!!!!
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Viasat 2 is not online yet. All of this is on VS1, a preview and, I'm sure learning tool for Viasat to see how we behave with unlimited so that the final plans can be tailored to suit us better.

Yes I want to control my own video quality, Unlimited with the Video Extender would be ideal if that Extender is account wide and not per device. 99% of the time, I'd throttle it to 480 but, once or twice a month I would like to be able to turn it off to stream an HD movie.
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Viasat 2 hasn't gone live yet.  People have had the ability to adjust their video rate manually for years.  Exede is now doing it automatically (it can be turned off if desired) and people go nuts.

One of the best things about being on Exede is getting to come here and read the complaints.  Its really mind boggling.  Everything is working fine for me.  Still rocking and rolling on the Liberty Pass.
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That is not exactly true. Not all video streaming services allow you to downgrade resolution manually.
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Roku let's me adjust bitrate.
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Roku isnt a video streamimg service. It is a tool to record video and replay it later. Netflix and YouTube allow to adjust resolution. To my knowledge, services such as Amazon and NFL Sunday Ticket do not allow bitrate adjustment. And speaking of that, football at 480p...not good.
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As far as i have seen roku bitrate overide dont let adaptive bitrate be controlled.I tested roku on lowest setting 0.3 and put netflix on highest setting and it still play hd same with amazon and hulu.
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Amazon does have controls that let you choose the quality and, by the way, the video I was watching when I did this screen shot via Amazon Prime played smoothly at the shown setting, on Unlimited Silver so, go figure.  Eats data like mad, but, it does stream just fine.

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That is not a roku i was talking about roku bitrate override.u can set pc for hulu to but i dont use pc 4 tv
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I have the same experience with Roku. The Roku bitrate override doesn't control the adaptive bitrate when streaming Amazon.

The following is a quote from Roku Engineering:

"It should be noted that the bit rate override screen does nothing for adaptive streams, such as the ones used by Netflix and Amazon.  And for non-adaptive streams, it normally doesn't matter if you set the bit rate override because the system will automatically play only streams that are below your measured network bandwidth.  There may be a few situations where the bit rate override improves buffering, but they shouldn't be common.  The screen is a debugging tool and was never intended for general purpose use."

https://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?t=101059
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Only on certain devices can you set Amazon screen quality. On tablets, yes. On my blu-ray player, no. Can't speak for it on my pc.
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Doing a damn good job supporting this in text, EasyChat and on my homepage.  Text says, sorry, having difficulties and it's no where to be found on my home page or in the silly ChatBot...  oh what I would give for the return of eSVT... Oh, that's right.. this is all "better?"
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ok... so the extender isn't available on the freedom plans?????  hmmm
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Jim, it is being rolled out in the more congested beams first, and will eventually get to your beam in time. I don't have it yet either. Just be patient.
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It will be on Freedom plans, just not on unlimited plans since they already have video streaming rate baked into the plan.
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There were few "qualifiers" in the above that I met... so when I tried to turn it on and found it "wasn't available" I was curious...